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Posted: Nov 19th 2011 1:01PM JaySpeed said

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So far I'm enjoying it. It'll be better once the instance bugs are fixed but so far it's fun. I do look forward to them expanding the functionality of the dungeon finder (hopefully in update 6).

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 2:10PM stephen09181981 said

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its to little to late for me swtor republic on pre-order and probably be starting around the 15th time to say goodbye to lotro been around since july 2007 but it seems its about nickel and dime you to death and i need a game where once i pay the sub everything is unlocked minus expansion packs

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 2:19PM Randomessa said

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It's good news for Mr. Randomesa and me, who are eager to explore the Instance Finder and start crafting and imbibing coffee! The Isengard content is still a long way away for the both of us, but more flavor and content for us to explore and experience is a good thing. I'll have to purchase items piecemeal, but as a lifer, I have more than enough points already. (I do so love that monthly stipend)

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 2:48PM smartstep said

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Well for me this game has changed too much to still enjoy it. Update 5 is providing changes that's even further change Lotro NOT to my liking.
So this won't get me back.

First of all - LFG tool. Don't like those.

Better would be if you could just add something like advertisement that you're looking people for instance / quest in some panel and then everyone could just browse through this panel (and organize it by instance / quest, class needed, etc ) than this awful auto-queue instant teleport things that totally ruin game and community for me.

Second thing. Nickle and diming. Seriously Lotro model turned bad, all the time "but this, buy that, 20% off traits this week" - not something I want to deal with in my leisure time.

Last thing.
Barter systems. Grind, grind, grind this game changed into "run instance x 100 times to get enough tokens for piece of jewelery". Not fun.

So those who still have fun, hope you'll will enjoy Update 5.
I am not going back to Lotro, never from what it seems.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 3:14PM OutThere said

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LIfetimer here with two acounts. When I had 8 characters at level cap (65) they were all geared out in class sets and many had good jewelry from boss drops. Now, the idea of the grind to gear out my guys sufficient to do anything challenging is mind boggling. Although I would like to say this is not Turbine's fault, the Great Drought of content drove many in my kin away or into part time playing because there simply wasn't enough to keep anyone's interest. So I'm sitting on a kin with only a few active members left and, so sorry Turbine, but LFG tool is not going to bring back players.

And, as others have said I just got turned off to all the nickle and diming. I'm looking forward to SWTOR as a real deal relief from having my pocket squeezed constantly for stray coins. I am not alone, and our kin alliances are helping us form up new relationships to go forward in SWTOR.

These are the gripes of a dedicated LOTRO player. That doesn't mean the game is not great. It is. During the Great Drought I wandered far, which allows me to say that LOTRO is one of the top, if not the top, MMO for too many reasons to name here. If you haven't played it, you should. And you shouldn't let the sour grapes of one who has been playing since 2006 closed beta influence your interest. It's a great game and always will be.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 10:07PM jimr9999us said

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@OutThere

Well said sir.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2011 12:41AM Sunaris said

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@OutThere

I agree with your comment almost 100%, however, I don't understand how they nickel and dime'd you, if you are a lifer. I'm vip and don't have to buy anything I don't want. Not trying to pick a fight, just curious.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2011 11:03AM OutThere said

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@Sunaris

Indeed, I don't have to pay for anything. But that doesn't mean that Turbine isn't still after my money. I see all the ads everyone else sees, get all the same emails, and have all the same Buy Me buttons on my UI. Wardrobe space, vault space, vanity horses, cosmetics, virtue tomes, stat tomes, acceleration scrolls for slayer, IXP, XP, crafting, and reputation, more LI slots and, of course, the Infamous Scroll of Relic Removal. All of these are optional, and with the exception of the Relic Removal, incidental and all are available to me if I care to spend money on them.
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 1:04AM EdmundDante said

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@OutThere Kind of sucks the life out of immersion - when everything has a "BUY ME" button.

The corporate mind-think...

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Posted: Nov 19th 2011 3:46PM TortoiseCan said

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Personally, I can see vets being upset by Isengard's lack of content and it being broken into 2 releases over the span of 3 months although I think Turbine did a good job by letting people know up front. I am actually excited about this content patch although I would say that since Moria, the amount of content that we've been receiving in general has been lackluster for such a huge game. I think that if they keep their promise of using the profits from Isengard to really go into overdrive on releasing content next year, I'll be happy.

I must admit that I was hoping we'd get a new area to explore with this content update though.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 4:44PM (Unverified) said

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"It rankled a lot of folks, and I personally thought it smelled like something Blizzard would pull -- release an expansion with advance claims to have all of these endgame dungeons but wait until a later point to actually release them.'

Seriously? What a joke. I don't see any justification for this snide remark. Every blizzard expansion has had dungeons and raids at launch with more tiers added as free updates.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 10:11PM jimr9999us said

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Agreed. Justin crossed a line with that comment. Say what you will about WoW but their expansions are always polished and complete and full featured.

There really isn't a good example out there that mirrors the Isengard "expansion". I think the best we can do is call it a grand failed money grabbing experiment.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2011 2:43AM Varakkys said

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'more tiers added as free updates'

Updates that you've already paid $60-$90 in subscription fees for. Each.

Just a thought.
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Posted: Nov 20th 2011 12:58PM slickie said

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@Varakkys What are you talking about? Blizzard doesn't charge money to access raids.

If you're talking about the subscription fees, those actually cover a lot of other content - with the same subscription fee, you can solo quest, do 5-man dungeons, raids, PvP, and a bunch of other things. It's a flat fee to access everything.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2011 4:50PM Ogged said

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I'm raging a little about Turbine killing the daily skirmish quests and replacing them with a 50% currency bonus when queuing for a random instance.
That Turbine also wants to remove access to yet to be specified things for soloers is disturbing too.


Posted: Nov 19th 2011 4:59PM Cassius81 said

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Update 5 is looking good but I will also be playing TOR exclusively for a while once it's early access starts. I will keep ,y sub going though and hope I can find the time to do a few instances in LOTRO.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 5:38PM Crapplebag said

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Just made it to Dunland after tearing my way through Enedwaith. Still enjoying this game. I'm definitely excited about the new instance finder and will probably run more instances because of it. Do wish you could pick a specific instance though. Hopefully they'll fix that as that is rather lame. I have to say I don't understand the people crying about Turbine Nickle and Diming them. Especially people that used to sub for the game. The lotro store pretty much sells convenience items that you obviously don't need and didn't exist before but our nice to have (loving the rep and slayer deed scrolls). And you have the option to go VIP for 10 bucks a month if you want all the content. You paid for it before so whats the big deal. It's still one of the best mmo's on the market. Although they may have gone a little overboard on the quest packs for pre lvl 50 content....

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 6:19PM (Unverified) said

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"It rankled a lot of folks, and I personally thought it smelled like something Blizzard would pull -- release an expansion with advance claims to have all of these endgame dungeons but wait until a later point to actually release them."

Hmmm... the last WoW expansion pack launched with 7 new dungeons and 2 retuned old ones as well as 3 raids. The latest LoTRO expansion pack launched with... what? No new dungeons? No new raids? Go pick another game to make your childish snide comments about. WoW delivers a lot more than LoTRO ever has.

Posted: Nov 19th 2011 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) WoW has long had back-of-the-box features for expansions that Blizzard not only failed to deliver on day one, but day 150 -- such as raids, dungeons, and confrontations with epic villains. In my book, you don't promise these features as part of the expansion and not deliver when the expansion releases, but some unspecified point in the future. I didn't like it when Blizzard did it, and I don't like it when Turbine does now.

As for WoW vs. LotRO, that's a topic for another day. We'll have to childlishly agree to disagree there.
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Posted: Nov 19th 2011 8:06PM (Unverified) said

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Examples? I know they had that "dance studio" thing, but that's hardly a major feature. It seems like you're trying to nit pick here. Every game stuido has to cancel certain features that don't pan out from time to time, but on the whole I think Blizzard has an excellent track record with giving people their money's worth. Fact is that Blizzard's expansions to WOW have been full of content and features. It's ridiculous to imply that they have rushed expansions or released them lite on content in order to nickle and dime people.

It's frankly unfathomable that Blizzard would release an expansion without a significant amount of raid and party content. Hell, I'm not sure when the last time they released a PATCH without new instances was. So the comment that this is something that should be expected from Blizzard is utterly ridiculous.
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