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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:04PM Marked said

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I think most people have come to realize the only thing that will ever kill WoW is old age.

Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:16PM Kaizlu said

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@Marked Age, or a big mistake from Blizzard. But given the track record Blizzard have, I'll go with age.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:23PM (Unverified) said

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@Marked Terenas Menethil II said it best at the end of Lich King, "No King Rules forever." WoW wont ever die, but i dont think itll ever be as big as it once was either.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 5:41PM DarkWalker said

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@Kaizlu

After Cataclysm, I'm not completely sure.

It might be just a coincidence, but that expansion made me, and almost every real life friend who played the game, leave. Also, WoW spent the whole WotLK expansion with no growth, but also no decline, in the player base, and starts bleeding players - and fast, to the tune of almost 15% of the player base just this year - right after Cataclysm hits.

What I think is, if Cataclysm was a mistake, it proves Blizzard can do big and costly mistakes; and if Cataclysm wasn't really the reason those players left, I don't want to even see what kind of decline will happen when Blizzard do a big mistake.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 7:14PM champagon said

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@Kaizlu this is were "Mists of pandaria come in
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 11:28PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@DarkWalker

Then again, Cata made me and all my real life friends return to WoW after having skipped the WotLK entirely.

But I agree that WoW is going to die of old age - just like Everquest is currently doing.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2011 10:26AM Furdinand said

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@DarkWalker I left relatively shortly after Cata was released, but I can't put my finger on what actually changed if anything. I really enjoyed the leveling content in Cata and the revamp of the lower levels. Archaeology was tedious and it was frustrating fighting bots over every Twilight Jasmine spawn but they weren't rage quit level bad. I think it was more that I was bored and it was time to try different stuff.
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Posted: Nov 16th 2011 1:27PM TehRichard said

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@DarkWalker My whole assortment of friends left WoW after Cata as well, but it wasn't because of anything Blizzard did. We had all been playing the game for the last 4-5 years, and we decided it was time to take a big break and let the game become somewhat fresh again.

Not to mention with the mass amount of AAA video game titles that were released this year, it's just hard to keep playing WoW. I'm still bouncing around my backlog trying to take it all in, and with Kingdoms of Amalur and Mass Effect 3 early next year, I just don't know when I'll finish it all.
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Posted: Nov 17th 2011 2:10AM Borick said

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@DarkWalker Agree.

I retired from 'raiding' back in EverQuest. WoW was a family-friendly retirement home for myself and (in time) much of my immediate family. I played casually through Lich King and soured on everything post-Ulduar.

Cataclysm was all that I could stand. When they tried to force my non-gaming family into their grinder I lost all desire to play.

WoW has lost six long-paying accounts from my family alone. I loathe the idea of the game now, and by extension I'm done with tab-targetting DIKU clones.

My previous subscription fees are better served paying for my minecraft server, or trying out some of the upcoming action-y titles that are on the spoke.

WoW is already dead to me.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:10PM dudes said

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Let me define the WoW killer for you: 'Impossible'

Posted: Nov 16th 2011 7:14AM (Unverified) said

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@dudes

A thousand Pandas say "Possible."
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Posted: Nov 16th 2011 5:03PM Archintyeron said

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@(Unverified) I do not think so... Neutral race ftw!
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:12PM (Unverified) said

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True! WOW is a one time force of nature!! Still see TOR getting into healthy second place numbers no problem.

Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:12PM Lenn said

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I often say that WoW was a fluke, and for that I usually get jumped by staunch defenders of the game, who don't know what that word means. Funny thing is, even Blizzard themselves have admitted WoW was a fluke. They were totally unprepared for its immense success.

Jef, you may want to take a gander at the TOR forums: there's a *huge* flood of (ex-)WoW players about to take over that galaxy far, far away. The number of posts starting alone the lines of "will TOR have (insert random WoW feature here) like WoW?" is staggering.
TOR may not kill WoW, but it might just leave a huge, bleeding gash nonetheless.

Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:13PM Lenn said

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@Lenn *along, not alone. An edit button, an edit button, my womprat for an edit button.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 4:43PM Bhima said

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@Lenn

Lenn, gamers who not only peruse forums but actively participate in them are not the vast majority of WoW gamers, they are, like us, a minority of very active gamers. I think Jef said it best that there is a healthy WoW playerbase that isn't all that into that much gaming in general and would probably never actively take part in a gaming forum. So although it looks like a good amount of people are jumping from WoW to TOR, it only takes a sample from the already smaller portion of WoW players, namely the actual gamers.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 4:49PM (Unverified) said

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@Lenn There are definitely a ton of WoW players heading over to TOR, but I think the gist of the article was more to the point that the casual, non "gamers" or however you want to define them who play WoW will not make that jump.

I really hope Titan is released in the next couple of years as I'm not sure how much longer I'm willing to keep burning out on WoW. Though as much as I'll always love and hate WoW, it will always remain one of my top games of all time. It has many, many flaws (and many, many horrible people playing it) but the experiences it provided me with rarely have been so wonderful as with that title.

I'll miss ya WoW, whenever you do go to that great software heaven in the sky.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:15PM MarkLIVE said

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You do know that out of the 10-12m players in WoW, 8-9m of them are chinese...which leaves 1-2m USA players. Thats a shitload yes, but LoL logs about 1-2m players a day also. It isnt an MMO, but just saying...WoW is big yes, but in the US, its honestly not that big as how its explained in #'s. Also I agree with @marked, it will die w/ old age.

Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:48PM Wilhelm2451 said

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@MarkLIVE - First, there is a world outside of China and the USA. The EU, for example, makes up a chunk of the WoW player base. Heck, Blizz just launched WoW in Brazil.

Second, Blizz sold 4.7 million copies of Cataclysm in its first month, which was six months before it was released in China. So I have to think there are more than 1-2 million WoW players outside of China.

But in general, I also agree, WoW will fade away over a long stretch the way EverQuest has been fading. Old age takes us all.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 3:18PM Seldra said

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I don't want a WoW a killer, I don't want their poisonous, bile-filled, cesspit of a community spreading out and polluting other titles.

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