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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 11:49AM Oyjord said

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Run, Templars, runs.

We Illuminati are hunting you.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:00PM Snichy said

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@Oyjord. You wont find us, we find YOU! The hunter shall become the hunted....!
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 1:11PM fallwind said

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@Snichy

/em looks at the giant templar banners

yeah... cause you are so hard to find....
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 1:24PM Unshra said

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@Oyjord Hmm... last time I checked it was the Illuminati that ran away from the Templar jumping over the pond and into New York. Besides you mates are too high to shoot straight anyways. ;-)
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 5:01AM Snichy said

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@fallwind. Oh lighten up.
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Posted: Nov 15th 2011 10:54AM fallwind said

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@Snichy hey, I'm not the one wearing a big target on my uniform :P
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:03PM BigAndShiny said

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And this, gentlemen, is how Funcom proves the tired old 'MMO's can't have good graphics' argument wrong and thus shames certain other upcoming games who seem to have decided their visuals should be taken straight from 2006. *cough* TOR*cough*

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:24PM (Unverified) said

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awwwww yeeaaaahhhh!!!!

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:52PM Mikx said

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So they're nazis? Vertical red banner on a castle wall? Check. Person with blond hair? Check. Color palette dominated by red, black and white? Check.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 1:10PM fallwind said

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@Mikx

not sure if Godwin's or Poe's.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 1:10PM Space Cobra said

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@Mikx

They are militant with an ages-old structure for following the law.

If anything, the Nazis stole from *them*, although their value system is different and more religious in focus. Heck, the Nazis even stole their symbol from Asia, which adorns several temples (and the American Indians have a similar symbol for life, which means the same in Asia).
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 3:03PM DancingCow said

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@Space Cobra

TSW's Templars are about faith, not religion. Not a huge difference but it's fun to split hairs, isn't it? :P

And the Nazis were similar, at least if you believe the propaganda. They tried to make themselves out to be a spiritual group. Hence all the seeking out of religious artifacts, using the (reversed) swastika, and trying to convince everyone that Hitler was a vegetarian.

If you're a government intent on committing horrors, your people are less likely to object if you can appeal to an abstract 'higher purpose' type morality.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 3:40PM Space Cobra said

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@DancingCow

"If you're a government intent on committing horrors, your people are less likely to object if you can appeal to an abstract 'higher purpose' type morality. "

...or a Religion (re: "The Crusades").

I know, I dug up that old chestnut. ;P
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 5:43PM Mikx said

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@fallwind Well, I snuck "person with blond hair" in there as an obvious joke, but they do seem to be designed with obvious fascistic overtones.

If you want a genuine example of Godwin's, turn to the FF14 thread where "feminazis" makes an appearance, in the proper context of an argument. ;)
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 8:21PM DancingCow said

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@Mikx

I think it was unintentional, and with the benefit of hindsight they would have themed them a bit differently.

eg. after the shooting in Norway, they replaced one of the blondes in the Templars logo with a brunette.

http://thesecretworld.com/society/templars
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 2:44PM DancingCow said

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"with historical roots in the Crusades starting in the 12th century"

Funcom would not thank you for saying this!

They've tried very hard to distinguish the Templars from Christianity. They've previously told us that the Knights Templar are a "minor offshoot" of the Templars and have said that the Templars have operated in plain sight since Babylon.

Though these misunderstandings are going to keep happening. It quacks like a duck and walks like a duck...

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 3:41PM Space Cobra said

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@DancingCow

And then I see this:

Yep, I am seeing ducks!
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 2:58PM Marz said

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I like all three factions. They all seem interesting.

But when I play the game I am definitely choosing... hold on... is someone there....oh well, I'm sure it's nothing... now where was...............

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 5:57PM Mikx said

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"They've tried very hard to distinguish the Templars from Christianity. "

Walks and quacks indeed. If they wanted to differentiate it from christianity, they're not trying very hard given the cross on the banner there.

Or does Funcom want us to believe that is a plus sign?

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 7:21PM Delstrago said

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@Mikx
Just because it is a Cross does not mean it is a sign of Christianity. Sometimes Walking and Talking does not mean is.

The symbol of the cross within a circle is very old and has played an important part in the History of Humanity. The symbol can be found in many cultures and many places around the world. From the ‘Rosy’ Cross of the Rosicrucians to the American Indians’ “Sacred Hoop”, from the “Celtic” Cross to the symbol of certain tribes in Western Africa’s Burkina Faso and Ghana.

The cross is a universal symbol; the pattee cross used here is even pre-Christian. It represents the four cardinal points, the four basic directions. The center of the cross represents the meeting point between the material world (horizontal branch) and the spiritual world (vertical branch). The red color of the pattee cross represents the fire of divine love allowing the Templars to fight materially and spiritually against the forces of evil; they wear it on their left chest, the seat of the heart.

In part it was in the minds of the "Knight Tempars" (A small offshoot of the Tempars) that connected the cross to Christianity.

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