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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:42PM Space Cobra said

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@hereafter

Yeah, community was fine. Of course, you get the "yak-yak-football scores/other MMO talk/etc." but it wasn't too bad. Some stupid things, many friendly things, but that tends to be my experiences with most beta/pre-launches. You get some trolls, but everyone tends to be a fan of the game they are playing and even helpful.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2011 6:10PM kjhasdfjkhk said

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I personally think betas should be at least a week. Then again, in the case of The Old Republic it only took me about an hour to realize I never want to play that game again.

Posted: Nov 13th 2011 7:15PM Graill440 said

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Plenty of higher level testing going on right now in TOR internally. These beta tests are nothing but server tests. Any input you think you are doing will not be seen for months, maybe years down the road.

The devs will follow the plan and outline they have and only dip into player "suggestions" if it is found the devs chose incorrectly, which is often the case. In three betas a couple blatant bugs are still there, reported by scores of folks, i will bet the thing(s) are still there at release.

Passing up this last mass everyone gets in beta invite that just went out. I want a fresh outlook on this build and the disappointment that will come with it at release. (Grin)

Posted: Nov 13th 2011 7:17PM HitechLolife said

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Do we have to downvote everything that's even slightly not in favour of swtor? I'm excited for the game like it's my first christmas, but I still want to read opposing views. They don't hurt anyone.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 7:59AM EuchridEucrow said

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@HitechLolife

The ranking system is an imperfect one like so many but it at least it is a way to keep in check a lot of the people that habitually take the opportunity to come in and troll off-topic about Star Wars the Old Republic. I point this game out in specific because I don't think I have seen a game incite this amount of baseless hectoring in...maybe ever. This seems to be at least an indication that, despite it possibly not being "the one", this game is going to have more impact on the Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing game community in general than any since World of Warcraft. Notice I said "impact" and didn't specify. The specifics of the thing will remain to be seen.
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Posted: Nov 13th 2011 8:00PM (Unverified) said

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The simple fact of the SWTOR Beta Weekends is that these are NOT "testing" weekends, no matter how you cut it.

There is a real beta going on for the lucky few that have been chosen. These SWTOR Weekends are 99% promotional 1 % testing. Rift's weekend tests were pretty much the same. They were to let players get engrossed in the game so when it was released they would want to play. Any new MMO being released will have these type of tests simply because they need to give a little for free in order to hook people away from their current MMO.

Remember there are very few "new" MMO players. There are only those that are either "burnt out and waiting" or "currently playing an MMO". Whether that game be, Eve, WoW, Aion, FFXI, Runescape, or any of the 100+ f2p MMOs, they have to get you into their game before they get paid. With a subscription based MMO, they need to get as many paying customers in the door on day 1. Weekend "tests" are the best way to do that.

Posted: Nov 13th 2011 8:53PM cazicthule said

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I tested in October and I loved the game. To me, it's Star Wars running on WoW's mechanics with great story. I find nothing wrong with that formula.

Some people are looking for revolutionary, but a lot of people aren't.

They've advertised the game as MMO with story and a heroic feel. It pulls that off well.

I can say (as a WoW player since launch) that I will never play WoW again when SWTOR launches.

It's not for everybody and that's fine. I hope those that don't like it, find something they do like.

I did one weekend beta and I'll be taking part in the next stress test as well. The weekend beta's are to sell the game for the most part and while it didn't sell me, because I already purchased it, it did help confirm my decision.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 1:56AM hereafter said

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@cazicthule

Same here. Some people want to call it outdated, I just think it's classic. I was surprised by that overall lack of complaints (helps that it's actually a good game). The Rift pre-launch beta was just toxic with the WoW comparisons, but everyone playing TOR seemed pleased for the most part.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 4:20AM Jeromai said

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I think they're a good bite-sized stress test or focused test if handled well. No point burning out your playerbase by letting them rush from level 1 to max level even before the game officially releases.

Depends on the purpose of the testing though. Some things come out over longer periods of time, or with a smaller more committed to testing population.

As for beta testing on -this- particular weekend, heheheh, competing for gamer attention with Skyrim takes guts. But I guess their IP is pretty strong in and of itself.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 8:06AM EuchridEucrow said

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@Jeromai

I think a BIG factor in the way Star War the Old Republic betas are being handled is due to the peculiar nature of the game itself. I think they don't want people to gobble up the story-lines too much and I think players are sensitive to this as indicated by them saying stuff I have observed like "I'm going to play a class I don't anticipate playing at launch for beta so i don't spoil the story". I think this one factor informs quite a LOT of how they handle the betas.
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Posted: Nov 14th 2011 9:51AM (Unverified) said

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Not really concerned about testing the endgame levels since it's the lower levels that have to be good in order to "hook" players in the first place. There will always be some idiot that will burn through the content and hit the cap then scream "endgame broken I'm bored!" to every forum he can find. I have ZERO sympathy for that person as he missed most of the fun of the game.

As far as beta weekends go, they are a good idea. Keep working out those kinks and you may sway people that were on the fence about buying the game. I wasn't sure about Rift, but after doing the beta I knew I had to play it come launch. Starting over didnt bother me at all really, since I could play the game day 1 without being completely lost.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 10:10AM (Unverified) said

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Imho "Beta" Weekends are nothing more then limited demos and don't deserve to be called betas.

Worst thing is this last beta weekend for swtor, where they'll invite everyone who ever signed up for the beta plus ppl who didn't. All we'll get to see on that weekend will be a huge queue and some really really bad lag. If even that...

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 11:14AM OsirisMonster said

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I enjoy the beta weekend type thing that a game like swtor does because it lets me try out the game before it launches. Sure I don't get to see a lot of content but that isn't really what I'm looking for. I wouldn't want to get too invested in things anyway since nothing carries over to retail. What I get to see is how well the game runs on my PC, what type of character customization options are available at character creation, and a basic idea of how the game feels while played. These the the types of things that I find invaluable to know if I want to purchase a game or not.

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:28PM heerobya said

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Group conversations make doing EVERYTHING in a group so, so much better.

A little bird told me that...

Posted: Nov 14th 2011 12:45PM Bladerunner83 said

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I actually got a chance to attend the beta this weekend. And I have to say it had its ups and downs. On the upside, it really gives you a feel for the game and the current state it's in. It was enjoyable and I had a good time just running around solo. To me it was a demo with a time limit.

The downside came around the last few hours of the beta on Sunday night. A select few "long-term" beta testers took it upon themselves to spout arrogant remarks to the "weekend" beta testers, like "Finally, you people will leave and I can get back to real work." or "Take care weekenders, hope you have fun after 12:00am." It was unbelievable, some of the things people would say, vulgar and juvenile. So I got a feel for the game, but if I was invited back for the beta, I think I’ll just wait until it’s released; the beta community is reeking with arrogance, similar to other very popular games.

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