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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 1:31PM hami83 said

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I think the sentence should be longer, but for Canadian law, life with parole in 10 is pretty harsh sad to say.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:26PM ndessell said

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@hami83 minors, until you get to that magic "tried as an adult" range do what ever its a free(-ish) pass
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:12PM Joshua Przygocki said

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@NeverDeath I don't like WoW very much, but your comment is kinda-sorta really stupid.

I mean, they have probably drank milk before too. Does that mean that people who drink milk become assholes or murderers?

There are assholes everywhere, not just in WoW.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:17PM (Unverified) said

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With no possibility of parole... for ten years? If you're qualifying no possibility of parole, it's not no possibility of parole.

It's hard to fathom not putting those who commit premeditated murderer to death. This wasn't a sudden crime of passion or a mistake, it was thought out ahead of time and they went ahead with it.

From the news article:

Wellwood, 17, and Moffat, 18, eventually pleaded guilty to the first-degree murder of Proctor, whom they admitted they lured to Wellwood's house, then raped, tortured and suffocated her before setting fire to her remains.

These are people who need to be removed from society, permanently.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:21PM (Unverified) said

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@Joshua Przygocki I agree, the WoW focus is entirely incidental. They might as well have said 'noted telephone users' or 'noted automobile drivers' or, as was mentioned 'milk drinkers'. I think it's a little more pertinent that Wellwood's own father also killed a teenaged girl.


Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:37PM kahnbloodbane said

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I once did hear this: "what's the point of committing a crime if you can't brag about it on the barrens chat?"
what happened here? easy people thinks what they do on internet has no consequences in real life, so, whathever they do, they can talk on the internet, because internet has no consequences, they can say anything at all there.
this makes me think tho, if someone would have taken seriously what they said the tragedy could have been avoided... I mean if I go around the internet saying I'm planning a crime, or to kill the person X.. okay it's just words.. but I'd rather it to be known, I mean "look he said he planned to kill the person X the day Y with the plan Z" maybe spamming it to all my friends on facebook and all over the world. no one would like that and most probably no one would do that after it has been put in public.
you'd argue, but then, everyone will view you like a criminal? well tell me, if you go around in a bar and say "today I want to kill somebody! I will do this, and this and that, and then dump the body in the sewers in small dices" what will people think about you?!? just because internet is global doesn't mean actions has no consequences in there. it just means more people will think you are crazy, and so needs to be considered about people who writes about murder and such on the internet.
I bet many of you would start jumping up with "but it's just words on the net!" and I'll reply:
tell that to the dead girl.
may she rest in peace.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:46PM Kalex716 said

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@kahnbloodbane

Thank you captain hindsight.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:43PM Vanir said

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@Daemodand

Your statement is so silly...

If this particular player is like most gamers, he doesn't play just 1 game. He was probably looking forward to Starwars, plays Rift and WoW... It just happened the player actually confessed to these crimes inside of World of Warcraft... and you know what...

Good Show Blizzard for bringing this information to the authorities. I havn't seen anyone praise the studio for actually working with the police to make sure this person was brought to justice so here is my praise...

Thank You Blizzard.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:45PM Kalex716 said

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@(Unverified)

Because the legal system saps out the draconian simplicity of just "two bullets".

Modern society has elaborate regulations and legal whoop-a-lah that bogs death penalities down with so much BS that it costs MORE to inact than it does to feed someone and lock em up for their entire life.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 2:53PM NeverDeath said

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@Joshua Przygocki

The only thing that's kinda-sorta really stupid is that you take everything you read literally. I was making a joke. It was grounded in reality, but it was nevertheless, a joke. Calm down.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 4:37PM Apakal said

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@NeverDeath

Joke or not, its a matter of taste.

Yours is obviously lacking.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 8:18PM NeverDeath said

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@Apakal

Silly English dropout. Taste is subjective, therefore no one's "taste" is obviously excellent, lacking, or otherwise. The only thing anyone can truly extract from this is that your ego is massive to think that you can judge a person's taste with any sort of authority that isn't just a matter of your own "taste", which is of course equally subjective.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 9:43PM Apakal said

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@NeverDeath

Silly deflecting argument. We aren't talking about which Coldplay album you like better.

This is about having the decency and good judgement, not to mention maturity to decide that maybe its not a good idea to make a vague joke within the context of someone being raped and murdered.

You can make all the subjective arguments and off-color jokes you want, but just look what happened to Gilbert Godfrey when people didn't agree with his "tastes."
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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Get this, according to the escapeist people blamed WoW for this...yeah, WoW.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 3:45PM real65rcncom said

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I think half the people who would have seen it would have thought it was a joke or something. I've heard some weird stuff (read) in chats and usually just chalk it up to kids yakking about nonsense.

I'm not sure why people say they are 'shocked'; rapes and murders happen every day in the U.S. and Canada (world really). The "shocking" part was that they were not too smart to type all the stuff down.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 4:25PM Irem said

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I don't know, it's never stopped being shocking to me to think of the thought process that has to be behind a person deliberately choosing to end someone else's life and make sure they die terrified and in pain, just for their own sick gratification. "Surprising" and "shocking" are two different things.
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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 6:10PM real65rcncom said

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@Irem

"Surprising" and "shocking" are two different things."
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That may be, but neither sentiment express what I felt when reading this based on what you read in the paper each day or see on the worldwide news.

I find it hard to believe anyone seeing the same things daily to get them as well.

Now if he had raped, murdered and EATEN the victim.. I'd be "surprised", but still not "shocked".

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Posted: Nov 5th 2011 3:45PM Channel84 said

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JUSTICE PREVAIL
Those kids have no respect for the law and human life
So sad to see these incident

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 4:26PM (Unverified) said

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yeeeaaah the people who think that killers are some weirdos or lonely quiet people have never met one. They are normal acting people like you or me, they have the same number of friends as most people and they tend to be people who enjoy the same activities we all do. This one just thought he could get away with it. Seriously, Read any FBI profile, it's there. What gets me is these people are often quite religious also just before committing the crimes.

Posted: Nov 5th 2011 4:33PM pid said

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From the top of my many years, why do I feel sad for the murderers, too?
I mean, these are kids and they are unable to value life and respect for others. Somehow, I think they are victims of their own actions. Where were their parents? What education did they receive from school?
This is so sad, so much (3 kids + their 3 families) wasted just for nothing.

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