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Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:08AM (Unverified) said

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That's like asking if I'm tempted to put my hand into a jar filled with razorblades and salt.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 12:12PM Saker said

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@(Unverified) I agree completely!
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Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:17AM Dumac said

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I don't believe it's "truly free", most of companies advertise that their cash shops don't have a major impact on gameplay but then sort of push it as far as they can anyway. Although NCsoft having most of it's business in Asia makes me think that they have a pretty good idea of a good/successful microtransaction model and i have been wondering what took them so long to get that to the west.

I will be checking it out. Somehow i feel XP potions will be a necessity, but then maybe that's just a stereotype by now. We'll see.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 2:54PM ed511df3 said

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@Dumac It's not "truly free". From their own website:

Lineage® II: Goddess of Destruction™ becomes truly free later this year. Experience the large-scale castle sieges, clan wars, and head-to-head Olympiad competition that made Lineage II famous. "Truly free" means no separate account types or blocked game content—everyone is treated like a VIP! Other than the in-game store items, all game content (character creation, races, classes, skills, zones, bosses, quests, clans, crafting, warehouse, auction house, chat, mail, forums, customer support, and so on) is absolutely free.

This isn't exactly a revolutionary way to run a free to play game. Most asian grinders run exactly this model. But calling it truly free - except for the things you have to pay for - is ludicrous.
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Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:20AM Ocho said

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Sorry no, I have too many games I'm playing now, and just don't have time to add another. That's the true problem with the F2P market: $ stops being the issue, and it comes down to how well they can take your free time.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:38AM Toyaga said

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Ill try just to see what GoD offers. Sadly this is not a game for casual gamers liek me.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:45AM Xii said

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I had an old account, so I'll definitely check it out. Don't know if I'll play for long, but it will be nice to be able to check in from time to time without paying for it.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:52AM pancho72 said

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If L2 is "Truly free, but not quite", what would that make games that are actually free? "More free than truly free" maybe.

If NCSoft intends to monetize it then it isn't free, and I wish developers would stop trying to market games like that.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:56AM myr said

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Maybe, if I happen to get bored of FFXI, FFXIV, Rift, and eventually SWTOR.

Not to mention Skyrim, Trine 2, and any other title that happens to catch my attention this holiday season. Or the huge pile of older RPGs I still haven't played.

In other words ... not very likely.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 9:01AM eddiestrike said

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I'll definetly be going to check it out, even it's just for a day or 2.

So many fond memories of L2.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 9:27AM (Unverified) said

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If I get bored and have no other MMO's to play, yeah sure. I enjoyed Lineage 2 for a while, and it'll be interesting to see how it plays now.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 10:06AM Rheem said

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It seems to me everyone is in one of two catagories: People who have played L2 and will check it out but aren't "sold". And people who simply don't care for one reason or another.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 10:09AM Braiks said

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Yes because I'll be able to play more than an hour before spending money. Most other p2p games that went f2p hinder your experience and content so much that you simply can't go on without spending money. So it's worth a try for playing free from my standing point.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 10:13AM Seinaru said

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I've never played it before but I'm interested. It's a good game now from what I hear so it's on my long list of "would like to try out but in the end I probably never will" games. As long as its cash shop isn't controlling I think it's worth a shot.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 10:21AM VikingGamer said

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This expectation that free means they will not monetize the game at all is simply stupid. In this context we obviously need to ask the question, what are they meaning by free? What part of all this are they claiming is free. Expecting a company to adhere to your personal definition of things is a bit self-absorbed.

What they are meaning here by "truly free" is that you get access to the whole game for free. They don't restrict you to certain zones, levels, races, or classes based on what you are willing to pay. You can go anywhere and participate in everything. That is not a bad definition of "truly free".

Yes they will sell leveling enhancements If you want to get to a certain point in the game faster then you pay for it. but you still have the option to not pay. As long as they don't sell anything in the cash shop that cannot be gotten by some other means in the game then I think it is a reasonable description. No, you wont be able to get a 2 hr double exp potion outside the cash shop but you do have the option to simply play for 4 hrs rather than just 2.

As for exp potion being mandatory that really just a function of your own expectations. Patience is always an option and it is free. If you just have to get to high level faster, then get a job.

Lineage 2 will not appeal to everyone. It is a slower, more mob grinding leveling experience. But despite the game's age and the older graphics it is definitely a much better game than most free to play games out there that already use this kind of payment model. I think L2 stands to knock free games like perfect world on their ass.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 11:25AM bobfish said

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Only if I suddenly lost my job, couldn't play SWTOR or GW2 and didn't have to worry about paying all those pesky bills.

Definitely not a game for someone with other time commitments.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 11:30AM Utakata said

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The only way an MMO is truely free to play is have everything available and accessible up front, no cash-shop and an option to support the game strictly through donations. So I wish these developers stop making a spin on the F2P with MT's as truely "free to play" when it's not. It's misleading at best.

...so to anwer the question: No. Not until they grow a pair and really make it truely free to play as I described above.

Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 5:24PM Sam not Spam said

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@Utakata
Problem is that idea is it sounds like the type of thing only pirate servers can get away with since they don't have anything resembling the overhead NCSoft would have (such as paying employees, creating new updates/content, cost of running the business, etc). Pirates can do that because, well, they're stealing someone else's work. I'm really NOT sure how NCSoft could realistically do that and expect it to work.

Oh, and as it stands, it seems that everything except what is in the cash shop will be free: no pay-gated content, classes, races, etc. This is different than Lord of the Rings, City of Heroes, etc. So, I'm assuming you're issue here is more idealogical than anything?
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Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:22PM Utakata said

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@Sam not Spam and his down ranking clan

It seems like the down rankers are on a free to play love-in these days. Since a year or so ago if I posted this comment, it would of been likely upgraded. I guess with the all the freemium and F2P conversions and such, I can understand their been a bit of brain fallout and giddiness involved with these positions of late. But they forget there still some of us who are still critical and skeptical of that business model - there are good reasons for that. And no down ranking will ever discourage least myself from stating my positions and reasons about it.

That being said, it should be pointed out that I am critical of NCSoft folks spinning this as true free to play, when it's not. All the apologetics (and downgrades) that are thrown at this does not take the way from that fact. Sorry, for raining on everyones' parade. However, if the devs want to have L2 as a true F2P with the criteria I've pointed out, go right ahead. Instead they should be stating a new take on F2P which is what they doing with the business model currently (and more power to them!)... but they should of labelled as such. And because of that, that's not a good selling point for me. (Neither is down ranking my views.) Just saying.
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Posted: Nov 3rd 2011 8:42PM smartstep said

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@Utakata

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