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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:21PM real65rcncom said

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Did not see this coming. These guys were doing great business not too long ago.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:23PM real65rcncom said

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@real65rcncom

and:

"many operations jobs are leaving Austin and being contracted back to Seoul,"

Nice! Cut jobs here, ship them back home. Just in time for Thanksgiving! /sarcasm
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:30PM Taawa said

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Their official statement wasn't careful enough to exclude layoffs at Arena Net. Also consider the pre-launch publicity for GW2 has cooled. The third of the three pre-launch novels has been put off to next summer. I'm afraid GW2 will limp out of the gate. I guess I'd better get comfortable in SWTOR or TSW, and calm my excitement for GW2.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:44PM Seffrid said

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@Taawa "I'm afraid GW2 will limp out of the gate. I guess I'd better get comfortable in SWTOR or TSW, and calm my excitement for GW2."

No unlaunched game ever lives up to the hype. That's already being reported with SWTOR and I've no doubt it will be the same for TSW and GW2.

The sad thing is that all it means is that this time next year there'll still be a gazillion people playing WoW and wetting themselves over the next big over-hyped thing.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:53PM (Unverified) said

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@Taawa Is ArenaNet actually fully controlled by NCSoft? Or still a separate company from them similar to how Activision Blizzard couldn't go layoff Blizzard employees.

Actually judging by their wikipedia page I guess NCSoft could terminate ArenaNet if they wanted to.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:29PM Rhodanum said

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@Taawa

Keep in mind that nowhere have they stated that they laid off any staff from the Bellevue, Washington offices, which is were ANET HQ can be found. The Seattle offices belong to NCSoft West proper (I remember that someone kept mistakenly saying that the ANET people worked there and one of the GW2 devs corrected them).

Either way, I honestly hope that this isn't going to affect GW2's development in any significant way. It already seems to be shaping up into a very good game and the publishers would be downright moronic to screw it up somehow when we're slowly getting closer to the finish line (keep in mind that their goal is to make money in the long-run as well, not just with first month sales, so another Warhammer type of scenario should be avoided at all costs).
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:37PM (Unverified) said

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@Taawa "Their official statement wasn't careful enough to exclude layoffs at Arena Net."

It excluded layoffs at ArenaNet. They said they're restructuring their Western *publishing* team.

They also say they're fully supporting GW2 development. I don't think you could say that and fire GW2 developers at the same time. Both of these excerpts, combined with the tip only mentioning Seattle, leave me pretty confident that ANet is fully intact.

Regarding hype, of course it's going to ebb and flow. There was a lot of press the past few months because ANet was doing the convention rounds. Now they're back in the studio working on the game and trying to get ready for beta. When beta is out there will likely be a rise in hype again because, even if there is an NDA, we should be getting some information about stuff like the final profession or WvW, etc.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:45PM silver001 said

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@(Unverified) "Game Production Studio (Seattle, Washington) – The NCsoft Game Production Studio brings products from the NCsoft development teams in Seoul to the West, including Lineage, Lineage II, Exteel and Aion." This seems like the victim of those layoff and NOT Arenanet. Looking at all those games its responsible, it only makes sense to drop them and also it kinda didn't help that NCsoft didn't even mention that particular studio in its press release. I think Ncsoft finally figure out that with all those western MMOs coming out and given how much of a failure aion and lineage 2, there is no real point to keep bringing eastern based games here.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 6:23PM Irem said

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@Taawa
"Also consider the pre-launch publicity for GW2 has cooled."

Holy shit, they were at nearly every convention this season as NCSoft's golden child, getting awards and positive press all over the place. They've been doing massive amounts of interviews, and the devs are -everywhere- heading up Q&As and demos. What you're seeing is the quiet after the convention season has mostly ended, which happened last year, too.

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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:10PM aurickle said

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I notice how their response made a point of stating that this affects less than 2% of their GLOBAL workforce. So it dodges saying what percentage of their North American workforce is being laid off.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:35PM silver001 said

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Aion sank and now it is beginning to take the other departments with. from the look of things Arenanet isnt affect because they NOT located in Seattle but in Bellevue, WA . And that would be redundant given how they just built a new office and was looking to add even more employees. As for limiting publishing capabilities, most people dont know this but Ncwest has a department that focuses PURELY on localizing foreign NCsoft MMOs to Na/EU. given the recent failure of aion and the soon to be release of their 2 western MMOs there isn't any real reason to keep trying to localize games that THIS market might not respond well to.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:42PM silver001 said

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@silver001 Quote taken from wikipedia "Game Production Studio (Seattle, Washington) – The NCsoft Game Production Studio brings products from the NCsoft development teams in Seoul to the West, including Lineage, Lineage II, Exteel and Aion." this studio seems of this layoff given that all those game it published are on the verge of dying a pathetic death.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:48PM Harley Dude said

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How is contracting a bunch of those positions back to Seoul going to help with Westernization?

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 4:21PM silver001 said

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@Harley Dude Did you ever consider the posibility that they are effectively ending all their Westernization given all the influx of western MMOs that will come out now and in the near future. Just look at the failure of Aion and lineage 2, it is apparent that korean made games probably wont get enough subs to be worthwhile.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 4:50PM Sukiyaki said

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They probably fired the guys who recommended R.Garriot to them or approved of him ... : D .... before he started to devour millions of NCSoft Dollars over years on a subpar unfinished product only to backstab them at the end and sue them American style and cost them even more to compensate his loss on stock gambling.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 5:03PM Seldra said

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@Sukiyaki
Careful what you say about the all powerful and knowing Lord British!

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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 5:21PM radioactivez0r said

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I have always been curious about getting into PR with my degree, but reading statements like that always reminds me why it would be awful. Unless I worked for Croteam.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 5:27PM Rhodanum said

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While I'm somewhat relieved that ArenaNET, Paragon Studios and the developers of WildStar seems to have come out unscathed, I can't say that I'm very happy at the prospect of NCSoft no longer localizing its games (or delaying them even worse than usual) for one reason:

Blade and Soul.

Damn, do gameplay videos for that one make me giddy. I'll be sorely disappointed if we never see it in the EU or the US (and before people point out things like 'it'll be another grinder' and so on, I'm well aware. It's just that I'm a VERY visual sort of person and grind becomes as nothing if someone can give me stunning vistas. There's a reason why I've been stubbornly chipping away at FFXIV, when just about every single one of my friends has long since quit XD).

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 7:42PM Irem said

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@Rhodanum
Yeah, I'll be very sad if B&S doesn't make it over here (I'm the same way; I can grind forever as long as I have something compelling to look at).
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 6:25PM Irem said

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It's really terrible to hear about this kind of thing, especially so close to the holidays. Best of luck to those who were affected.

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