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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 11:43AM Kamui Zero said

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F2P would actually mean MORE suscribers since it takes at least over $120 just for new people to start and suscribtion fees, of Course Blizzard doesn't know anything about the popularity of Free MMOs, just their wallets.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 11:56AM Greymantle said

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Well it worked for my wife and I. We both signed up for year contracts to get Diablo 3 free. It works out to us paying less then 7 dollars a month to play Wow.

My wife and I had a discussion on how many MMO's we have tried since Wow and we always end up back playing Wow. We decided it would be no different with up coming games like SWTOR and GW2.

The logic may seem odd but, we were going to buy Diablo 3 no matter what so this option seemed the way to go for us.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 5:02PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@Greymantle

Makes sense to me. I did the same thing.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 12:14PM Dizazter said

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What he's really saying:
"We're actually still making boatloads of money with our current pay to play scheme. I know other games make decent money doing FtP, but we're still making WAY more than them. When what we make < what FtP MMOs make, we'll change to FtP. Until then, keep that credit card info up to date!"

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:15PM Kamui Zero said

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@Dizazter
in other words, Blizzard = Micro$oft
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 12:26PM Valius said

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People dropping WoW because of Panda's need to take a hard look at themselves In my opinion, pandas & gnomes are on the same level of childishness.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 1:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Valius

Statement makes no sense. And if you need to take a hard look at yourself for making a decision based on a video game, maybe you need that.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 3:52PM Harley Dude said

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@Valius

Not really...Gnomes have been around since PnP D&D, and it seems a lot of people hate animal races and deride their players.

note: I've never played WoW so obviously I'm not quitting over it, but I did LOL and think maybe it was April 1st when I heard about this.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 4:20PM Utakata said

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@Valius

Yet many games in various states of seriousness have released small/chibi and/or comical like races. And had various kinds success with it regardless. Where your missing the point (and setting up a strawman), is that there's never been to my knowledge where Blizz released a game or expansion of any of it's products based entirely on Gnomes...let alone any other races, "cute" or otherwise. PoM is a stark contrast from that trend. And this to many is problematic.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 4:55PM Seldra said

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@Utakata

I see this more as just a bunch of "srs gamerz" making the usual kneejerk reactions to everything they dislike. They called Worgens furry fan fodder, they didn't like the Draenei backstory, said it would ruin WoW. "Omg another elf race in WoW!? I quit lolz!" Been there done that.

I don't expect these people to learn nor think things through so I just roll my eyes and wait to the next "controversial race" to be instituted into the game and again we'll see this same story unfold in a year or two.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 5:03PM JanChel said

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@Valius

What these people don't seem to realize is that all games are childish. We might enjoy them for a time but in the end they don't really matter.

(except you know for game-makers. For them, it's obviously serious business :)
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 7:49PM Budukahn said

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@Valius

Trust me, if Blizzard decided to make their next expansion wholly focused on the Gnomes, I would offer the same lack of enthusiasm for it. While I can enjoy Gnome and Pandaren themes equally, I don't think either are suitably epic enough to have the big bi-yearly expansion themed around them.

I mean, an expansion for WoW is pretty serious business, given how little effort Blizzard puts into updating it's game. (I quit quoting "glacial content updates" at the exit survey). You'd think they'd be a bit more impressive than, well, for lack of a better term - Kung Fu Panda.

To put it in perspective of what has come before in my view:

First there was the Burning Legion - a demonic army that left worlds in ruin poised to invade Azeroth.

Then there was the Lich King, the great villain of Warcraft 3 whose undead armies were poised to overrun the world, nevermind that many long term warcraft players had a score to settle with.

After that came Deathwing, Dragonic aspect of Death, corrupted servant of the old gods, looking to unmake the very world.

And now we have an expansion about a magical lost kingdom of Pandas.

We're not exactly keeping with prior themes here are we?
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 10:29PM Utakata said

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@Seldra

You like Valius are missing the point.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 11:10PM Seldra said

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@Utakata

I really don't see a problem here, what I do see is a bunch of people making blind assumptions on the so called critical mistake Blizzard has made by making a supposedly cartoonish race the central focus of an expansion.

If anything, the reason WoW will dip in subs is people are either tired/bored of the game/sick of archaic loot systems/dps meter epeen waving/loud immature community, any of those reasons or all them. Not to mention the possibility of the big 3 MMOs waiting in the wings next year which could maybe siphon numbers. Pandas? You people give them too much credit.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 12:49PM eLdritchZ said

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In other words:

If you have 11 million people paying you on a monthly basis regardless of what kind of retarded crap you do and a good chunk of those people even pay you extra for little perks and pokemons, then why change anything? life is good! ^^ Here's to industry, chaps!

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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F2p isnt right for ANY premium games, as it shuns loyalty and appreciation,

All the AAA games only changed to F2P because they are too cheap to promote their games to teh masses, so they rely on the minority of losers with no life that spend their paychecks on virtual lives. Just like Second Life made a killing with tons of $$$ their first few years, The losers of the world have money to spend!

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 1:17PM Doran7 said

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the pandas are great.. sorry I have no problems with that aspect of the announcment. and he's right, f2p would make wow suck...hard.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 1:41PM Dunraven said

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TOR is sitting on about 3 milllion pre sales and unlike other MMO's that started strong and failed fast (*cough AoC cough*) it is getting positive spin from reviewers that has played way past the starting area. Even devs from SOE and Blizzard say it's a well polished fun game.

The point is there is significant competition on the way for WoW if figure around four million lost subs from just TOR alone...god help them when GW2 is launched.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 2:46PM Misterlee said

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It's funny how all their current advertising is claiming "IT'S FREE!" then isn't it?

Talk about two faced.

And yes, we all know it's not really free, it's only till level 20 which makes it a demo/trial basically. But they ARE definately jumping on the band wagon even while still charging a sub.

Posted: Oct 27th 2011 4:49PM Utakata said

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I think this confirms to extent one of my suspicions. That is, in all likeliness Blizz will milk WoW even in its death. Something most other gaming companies cannot simply can't afford (ie. CCP). Since they never had the success that WoW has, let alone with its other RTS products. Unfortunately for the consumer, there leaves little room now for any accountability...

...make a crappy expansion based on anthropomorphised pandas. Drive away subsciption numbers with their inanities. Lose their bread and butter audience by switching their target audience. They don't care. 'Cause they can buff their cash shop, open themselves to other markets, introduce RMT's in their auction house and go Freemium if push comes to shove. *Greed is eternal for them now. I am both awe struck and thoroughly despressed at this. That is, few companiess now can afford to do this now, but it sucks for us. :(

*Note: Rules of Acquisition #10

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