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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:17PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) "And I assume the whole Sargeras thing would be the last expansion unless they make another Panda April Fools Joke expansion."

Well, they can always do an expansion around the two-headed ogres.

One head for the Alliance, one for the Horde. Hilarity is almost guaranteed.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:43PM potaco said

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@(Unverified) (and others)

As I brought up in another article, the Emerald Dream/Emerald Nightmare was covered pretty in-depth in the "Stormrage" novel that was recently published. I don't necessarily agree with that decision, but I don't see them going in that direction for an expansion anymore. I could see a patch focused on it, but besides that, I think we'll have to settle for the tidbits here and there that we get.

As far as lore goes, since they've officially added the Pandaren race as canon, they can do a lot with it. They haven't announced specific "bad guys", but you can rest assured that the raids and patches won't just be filled with mazes with treasure chests at the end.

I can't really see Sargeras being the "last" expansion either. They can always create more lore. And anyway, the idea of having an end to an MMO is counter-intuitive and counter-productive.

I'm kind of disappointed that so many people are putting up blinders and dismissing the entire expansion as "Pandaren = Kung Fu Panda". It just seems a little extreme to do that with so little information actually available.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:54PM Eamil said

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If, throughout the Warcraft franchise, Blizzard "stuck to the lore" without adding anything new, WoW would consist entirely of orcs, humans, and the bottom 1/3 of Eastern Kingdoms.

I've thought for a while that WoW needs to stop tying up loose ends from the RTS and start telling its own story. The Emerald Dream would have been one way to do that but I'm personally glad to see Blizzard doing something completely new.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:55PM (Unverified) said

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@potaco Yes, Stormrage (the novel) covered a lot of what was going on in the Emerald Dream, but it's focus was on the Emerald Nightmare. The Emerald Dream is an entire world existing parallel to Azeroth and could be it's own expansion due to:

- It has been in lore for a long time and meshes with the world. Unlike a gigantic secret sea turtle continent that no one has heard of until now.
- It has it's own inhabitants, even if it's just druids/green flight/keepers.
- The mystery of what was in the abyss Malfurion stares into near the end of the book is never fully explored. Is that a portal to an old god's realm? Is it simply an entry into the nether? This could be a crux of an entire expansion
- It's NOT about pandas, panda lore, april fools jokes, or pandering (pardon the pun) content. It's also not corny, cheesy, goofy, lame, anthropomorphic, stupid, played-out and just plain dumb.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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@slickie

I would have rather played a Kobold (The miner rats), or a Gnoll (Hyena dudes) before Pandaren. They're way over 20% cooler. Maybe even double the fun.

Part of me suspects that Kung-fu panda came out BECAUSE of WoW and Pandaren. Blizzard sat on them forever, and missed the bus, years ago. Somebody else came along, saw it was a good idea, and boom Kung-fu panda.
So that boat has sailed, a cool idea is now old news. This is what happens when you sit on ideas too long.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 11:22AM Masync9 said

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Maybe this is another bid to get more Chinese subscribers? It's that or are they *still* giving away subscriptions there in order to pad/boost their numbers?

Making a comparison of each expansion with this one. Does it really hold up?

For myself this feels like 1/4 expansion. The starting area will be good for maybe 1-20 after that the quest paths will follow the same two progression paths each time.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 2:52PM Arkanaloth said

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totally unrelated, but seeing the blog image reminds me of the art of Usagi Yojimbo. >_>

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 2:54PM Unshra said

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Already have some questions lined up.

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:12PM real65rcncom said

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Katanas?

They get katanas? oO

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:22PM Lenn said

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@real65rcncom Pandanas.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:37PM real65rcncom said

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@Lenn

ANYTHING with katanas is instantly awesome.

Anything. It's the weapon equivalent of bacon.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 6:52PM Utakata said

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@real65rcncom

1) First, when Samwise Didier, Blizz's standard bearer artist for WoW started illustrating the humaniod pandas (which if I am not mistaken was for his own pleasure)...he had them steeped in Japanese culture. Perhaps an influence from anime at the time. The pic for this article was likely one of those early renderings.

Eventually Blizz was interested in using them as art assets for their Warcraft games including the April Fools joke I believe. However, there was a concern that pandas originating from China should have more Chinese influence...perhaps as an exercise not to offend China or their Chinese customers. Hense, the eventaul style you see now being used for the Pandaren sans-kantana's.

2) Kantana's surprisingly have been in WoW since Vanilla. It's not a popular model...and certainly doesn't look as big and flashy as their epic sword counterparts. So they're used very little. And I don't think they've been used since Vanilla if my memory serves me correct.
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Posted: Oct 27th 2011 12:38AM Utakata said

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@Utakata

*standard bearer...um, no pun intended. :(
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:44PM potaco said

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@Nenene
Not sure why you've been posting this on every MoP article... this dev chat was announced at BlizzCon after the official expansion announcement.

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 3:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Nenene I don't like the new expansion either but it's obvious you have loooonnggg burned out on WoW judging by your previous posts. Why even bother posting?

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 4:12PM Lucidus said

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I'll take "Damage Control" for $1000, Alex.

Posted: Oct 26th 2011 4:16PM (Unverified) said

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@Lucidus The dev chat was announced back at Blizzcon.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 4:38PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) And they could not possibly have foreseen the commotion that the Panda expansion would cause.
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 5:41PM Fabius Bile said

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@Lucidus

for $1000, Lucidus

"This MMO has abandoned its western playerbase to cater to the asians"
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Posted: Oct 26th 2011 9:54PM TheClaw said

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@Fabius Bile : the Western playerbase that has been clamouring for them to add Pandaren to WoW for years and years? It's one of the absolutely most requested things from the history of Warcraft.
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