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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 3:18PM smg77 said

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How dare those people paying money to CCP demand something for it.
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Posted: Oct 29th 2011 10:50AM (Unverified) said

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@Azaetos 'Cause Incursions wasn't a major update :|
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:21AM (Unverified) said

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Really unfortunate that a string of bad management decisions would affect the employee's on the ground floor, but sadly that's the way of the world.

Condolences to all of the CCP staff that have lost jobs, this close to the holiday season and with the current unemployment numbers being so high it's a horrible blow. Doubly so when, for the WoD staff, their job losses aren't their fault.

Posted: Oct 29th 2011 10:52AM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) I get you're trying to be nice, but how do you know the EVE staff are going because it's their fault (which is your implication)? The chances are the most junior staff are the ones being laid off - and they haven't been the ones responsible for the bad decisions that led here.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:36AM Irem said

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I think it's probably best that they realized they were stretched too thin, but it's still very sad to hear. Best of luck to those who have been affected.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:42AM Gaugamela said

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This sucks.
And it sucks even harder that this people had to be laid off because of bad decisions made by the top brass. Those should be the ones getting the axe, not the rest of the staff.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:50AM (Unverified) said

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lawl, idiots.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:53AM Snichy said

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If EVE is going so strong and development on WoD is spreading them so thin, you hire MORE staff to pick up the slack, not get rid of people. Clearly it is worse than they are making out which is ominous for the future.

Surely they should start charging for their expansion packs or raising subs, rather than seeing good people jobless.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:04PM Irem said

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It's not as simple as that. Personnel cost a lot of money, and probably more than they can afford to spend making sure that all bases are covered. I strongly doubt that they would have potentially slowed development on WoD if they felt that hiring more people would be viable.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:58AM Apakal said

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Cutting their loses early apparently before Dust fails both financially and conceptually... Bummer.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:25PM Rhodanum said

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Frankly, this doesn't surprise me at all. I'm starting to think that this industry is in many ways one of the worst for the ground-level employee, both due to its very unpredictable nature and since those on the bottom are usually the ones who bear the brunt in any field when it comes to cutting costs.

For instance, this lovely piece of news: a relative of mine (not saying who, to save him from potential legal repercussions) got hired as a game tester by EA in September and worked on BF3. Today, he got news that around 80% of the team is getting laid off because that game is launching soon and EA has no more need for them. Apparently, he and his colleagues were just hired in a hurry so EA could have as many hands testing that game as quickly as possible and then bon voyage. From what I understand, the decision came from the HQ in the US and even the regional director in this area of the world opposed it, but there's nothing to be done.

I think what infuriates me the most is that at no point were they ever told 'you're only hired on a temporary basis, until the damn game ships.' No -- they were being offered all sorts of assurances that after three months, their work contract would be moved from the headhunting third party company to EA directly and their wages would rise accordingly. Though I suspect this was more a case of the regional top brass not knowing that HQ would be this dickish.

So this is mainly my view of the gaming industry right now -- 'let's do whatever the hell we want with the people on the bottom.' Nothing new under the sun, but this whole kerfuffle with CCP only cemented this impression. Perhaps they should look into the 'Occupy' movement as well.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:43PM Lockisezmode said

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@Rhodanum Your relative should have know better given that gaming companies have been notorious with that kind of behavior. Never believe anything that isn't in a verified contract. It still sucks for his/her loss but contract work is going to become the norm over the next twenty years. Companies are now focused on profits for than stability. This partly due to greed and partly due to shareholders having more power to push for more returns on their investments.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 3:51PM (Unverified) said

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@Rhodanum I worked as a QA game tester for many years. Getting laid off after a project is post-crunch and out to retail is part of the industry norm. It just comes with the job and I'm surprised your relative didn't realize this. EA is especially notorious for this practice as their dev cycles can be exceedingly short, creating excess spending in headcount which results in layoffs that generally affect the QA staff.

If you're not a QA lead or producer your job is never secure enough to think you'll be there after each and every project.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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CCP just making all the wrong moves. Keep it going CCP, you'll put yourself out of business.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:34PM (Unverified) said

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"Finally, the press release attempts to head off the doomsayers by pointing out the fact that EVE's subscriber numbers are higher than they were this time last year."

Doesnt this mean nothing??? Because there subscriber numbers could have grown and then when monocolegate hit they could have lost a ton of subs bringing them down (although at a point higher then last year). Also with the sudden loss of subs they could have lost their invesment money for projects.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:41PM Skyydragonn said

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So theres cutting the majority of the staff working on thier unfinsihed product instead of cutting out excess executive positions?

Well that sounds like the final nail for WoDMMO....Pretty confident at this point it will end up being a half baked throwaway game when/IF it finally does release.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:00PM Dunraven said

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Years of promising the moon and delivering a sack of rocks has caught up with them, plus all of the corruption, greed and arrogance.

I honestly look for CCP to be history within five years.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:05PM dudes said

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Really really bad news day. I am a WOD fan. White Wolf should consider going elsewhere or transferring the game development to a different game dev who can bring in Mages and Werewolves, not just vampires. If it's just vampires then it could be redesigned to Camarilla vs Sabbat.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:35PM Dunraven said

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@dudes White Wolf can't...CCP now owns White Wolf
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 2:18PM dudes said

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@Dunraven Lol, then White Wolf just got bitch slapped.
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