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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:51AM Ceridith said

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My condolences to those who lost their job... but I saw this coming since the announcement of WoD. Honestly I was surprised when they did announce WoD since Dust was nowhere near close to the end of development at the time.

Posted: Oct 24th 2011 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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@Ceridith Note to you and everyone who says "Honestly I was surprised when they did announce WoD since Dust was nowhere near close to the end of development at the time." and similar... WoD was in development before DUST. It was announced prematurely long before the second official announcement. Do your research, dudes. WoD was announced in 2006 - DUST in 2009.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:52AM Lycaniz said

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NOES! NOT WOD!

why not hit the damn console game known as DUST instead :/

bad move CCP.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:23PM (Unverified) said

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@Lycaniz

Probably because, from a business sense, DUST 514 has a better chance to be successful; the FPS market is much more forgiving than the MMO market. At least, in theory.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:57PM Baby Choo Choo said

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@Lycaniz and @unverified

...and DUST514 is presumably much, much farther along in development. We know for sure that they're aiming for next summer for it's release.

WoD, on the other hand, is still up in the air as far as a release date is concerned. We haven't seen any screens or footage at all and we know nothing about a release date. People assume it was coming next year, but that's all that was - an assumption.

It makes much more business sense to just finish the project that's further along than to push it back to work on another one that'll take longer.

I mean, if you're building two houses and one is almost done, you don't suddenly stop working on that one to start building a new one no matter how pretty the second one might be. You finish the first house so people can move in and you can get your money.

Sure it sucks WoD had to take a hit, but it makes infinitely more sense to dial back on that game in favor of their other, arguably more important, projects.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 3:23PM MajorPorpoise said

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@Lycaniz Contractual agreement with Sony. Can't just break that all nilly-willy.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 10:56AM Tinkus said

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Oh goddamn it.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:00AM SnarlingWolf said

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When will game companies stop trying to do some many projects at one time. Build up slowly and expand slowly, no need to rush just to have people fired and projects closed.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:37AM demonlife said

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@SnarlingWolf

Capitalism 101, I'm afraid. If you're not growing, you're dying. Look at Starbucks, for a good example.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:06PM SnarlingWolf said

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@demonlife

I get that general coporation mentality, it is just so flawed I'm waiting for them to catch on.

Every company is trying to make multiple games at once and the market is being flooded with far too many products. This spreads users out all around which means products make less revenue. Due to so many products being made the quality tends to suffer which makes people buy fewer games from a fear of wasting money. All of this leads to companies getting worse returns on their investments which leads to making lower qulality to save money which makes people willing to spend less on games and the cycle continues.

Companies have started doing the F2P model to try to get more money per consumer and to allow people to jump from game to game and return more easily by being able to buy their way back into competitiveness/get caught up/etc.

If companies worked on fewer products at a time and grew slower, the quality would be better and there would be fewer games flooding the market which would then make every company more money and would give the consumer better products.

It is just frustrating to watch. I used to buy several games a year, every year. Now at most I might buy 1 game a year and typically only when it has had a price drop/is on sale because the games aren't worth the money anymore.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 4:46PM Utakata said

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@demonlife

Capatalism 101: Most capitalists don't know about capitalism.

Case in point: "Sure the cash shop will be a great for our business. We just force everyone to dock at their captain quarters, to remind them of exclusively priced products you can only see worn when stuck in said quaters. We'll be rolling naked in money in no time!"

...but 6 months later: "We report that we have to layoff 20% of our staff internationally. And put our latest popular project on ice. Ooops...sorry!"

I guess the only thing they're rolling naked in now is their creditors' bills. But either way...CCP shoulda put two and two together and saw that coming if they knew what they where doing. Just saying.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 8:48PM Utakata said

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@Utakata

Perhaps I should of said that more succinctly without being over-the-top. But I have a difficult time suppressing the rage and anger over something that may have been entirely preventable. Not to mention the lives they have ruined in the process. And a potentailly very unique IP that could of brought something truely different to the MMO sphere that will likely never see the light of day. I have nothing but disdain for CCP now. Sorry.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:05AM Damn Dirty Ape said

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When I first read the title I thought it was saying that the layoffs were focusing on Eve.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 2:22PM ZenJitsu said

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@Damn Dirty Ape
I can see that...maybe there should be a semicolon after 'staff' instead of a comma: CCP layoffs affect 20% of worldwide staff; company focusing on EVE

Those layoffs affect more than a hundred people; hope they can find something soon in Atlanta. I don't know much about the game development market there.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:14AM aaradun said

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Basically this is what people have suspected for a while, their last expansion is bitting them in the ass and they lost probably 20-30% of their sub.if not more.

And now their are forced to get rid of people as they revenue are down.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:14AM Fernando Blanco said

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Really sorry to hear this guys; I'm a huge EVE/CCP fan >

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:20AM (Unverified) said

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That fucking sucks.

Not interested in the slightest in EVE, extremely interested in WoD.

I realize they have to placate their extremely whiny player base, but these other projects would lead to diversifying their customer base, and making more money on the long run. Which would be good for EVE too.

But hey, no, let's whine about ships not spinning or whatever and force a company to focus on the short term instead of investing long-term.

Posted: Oct 19th 2011 11:40AM Irem said

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The "short term" is where their money comes from. Players are not investors, they're people who are paying for a product. It's terrible that it had to come to layoffs, but I blame the people who made the personnel decisions that resulted in lack of focus on their flagship, not the people who love EVE and may or may not give a rat's rear end about WoD and DUST. Those are unproven properties that -might- be successful and -might- be good for EVE years and years down the line, but asking players to bear with that and believe that while taking their money for reduced services is just a bit much.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 12:36PM Eamil said

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@Irem

I swear 90% of the time I see you comment, I want to say "Stop reading my mind!"

We seem to think disturbingly alike. ;)
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 1:01PM Azaetos said

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Oh yes isn't it just terrible that those EVE players don't want to keep paying their subs for a game that hasn't had a major update for the last 2 years. Yes CCP should continue to ignore their EVE playerbase and main source of revenue just so you can play vampires.

And they should continue to poor money they clearly don't have for the next 2-3 years into WoD. It would just be great wouldn't it seeing CCP go broke and belly up.

Maybe you should pay CCP a subscription every month like the EVE players do if you care so much about WoD to give them the finances to make the game rather than "whining" about it.

Really? get a reality check.

At least with what CCP is doing now, they should be able to remain a viable company.
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