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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:17PM Lucidus said

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AoC really doesn't have much to worry about. They've got a virtual world going on that caters to adults. SWTOR is a whole lot of set pieces catering to the lowest common denominator.

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:15PM DarthDan said

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@Lucidus

Yeah... AoC is not something I would consider a virtual world. Not by a longshot.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:16PM DarthDan said

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@Lucidus

Yeah... AoC is not something I would consider a virtual world. Not by a longshot. Unless the game has been completely revamped since I played last year.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 3:07PM Keeop said

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@Lucidus You're a cutiepie. Love it.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 3:42PM EuchridEucrow said

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@Lucidus

Think you are spoiling to be a Ren54 junior.
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Posted: Oct 18th 2011 6:40PM JayDay said

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@Lucidus

"They've got a virtual world going on that caters to adults."

*cough* You must be playing AoC in an alternate universe. It's community is one of the worst, abusive and disgusting in the MMO world.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:23PM (Unverified) said

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I think you hit the nail on the head when you said "the first 20 levels are very similar to the fully voiced story and cutscene driven gameplay." Tortage was was one of the best if not THE best starter area in any MMO to date. The problem was once you moved on to the next zone, it devolved into standard MMO fair with 95% of the VO disappearing altogether. TOR looks to improve upon the Tortage model, and it will do so throughout all 50 levels and zones. It will also have multiple starter areas and class stories, something AOC is lacking for the most part, making TOR a very alt-friendly game.

Graphics-wise, I think it's just personal preference. I like AOC's "photorealism" every bit as much as I still enjoy WOW's stylized "cartoonish" graphics. It appears that both AOC and TOR's character creator options will be on par, which is pretty good.

Gameplay-wise, I initially loved the more involved nature of AOC's melee combat system. But, after awhile, it didn't provide anything I would write home about. You just got into a routine of watching your enemy's shield positioning. AOC is definately catering to a more mature audience, and the next few months will be interesting to say the least. Hopefully the added competition brings out the best in all MMO titles, present and future!

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 3:23PM Ordegar said

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I agree; the starting area in AoC is very good, and is in fact one of the best

I think that AoC and SWTOR are very different, and will appeal to people for different reasons; just as any good mmo will have something that people like about it. They have a different "feel", or atmosphere; the classes are different; the story lines are different. So what this does is give people a choice among good mmos to play.

I think AoC will survive just fine. There are Conan fans, and AoC fans enough to keep the game going I'm sure. Just as LOTRO will be ok, and STO.

I think a lot of players who will go to SWTOR will be Star Wars fans who have never played an mmo; or Bioware fans who have never played an mmo. So, though it will pull many people from other mmos, it will also be pulling from outside the current pool of mmo players, just as WoW did (WoW brought Blizzard and Warcraft fans -- it increased the then mmo pool exponentially, and therein was its success, not from the death of competing mmos).

My prediction is that AoC, like many other mmos, will see a dip in population as people go to try out the shiny new Star Wars mmo; but then many will come back to AoC.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 4:59PM Tizmah said

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@(Unverified) I used to think the starting area in AoC was good. But actually, it's pretty generic now days.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 5:51PM SwarlesBarkley said

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I cannot agree with Tortage being a great starter area. I found it boring and could not wait to get over. Then again because I found it so dreadful I wound up just not playing altogether.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:48PM Thorqemada said

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AoC has already offered specials to promote long term subs so they know whats coming.
The initial rush to SWTOR will have an impact but AoC has its strengths and should allways have enough players to keep servers running and some development going on for years to come.
Funcoms fate is more bound to TSW is my guess which may have an impact on AoC if Funcom fails with that.

And now i am going play Darklands which has finally arrived at GoG.com, one of the best and most unique open world rpgs ever made!

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:49PM Utakata said

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The Old Republic needs to worry if it can survive itself. And I have my strong douts about that. But I digress, this article is about AoC...

...and like all freemiums, I think it will likely do okay. And pick up again once the locusts have finished feasting on SWTOR. Keep in mind too, being a freemium, means one doesn't have to pay to keep it going. So in that way, as long as AoC remains on peeps' hard drives...they have never truely left it. Thus interest may wane for a bit, but never really go away.

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:43PM DarkWalker said

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@Utakata

I'm wondering why this post was voted down. Is it just because it's author had doubts about the viability of TOR?

While I'll agree TOR will have one of the biggest launches in history, I'm also not really certain of it's long term success. It will have a far higher cost for producing additional content due to the full voice-overs, it's going to enter a market that is showing a F2P bias, and while the game is mostly assured to have a fantastic story, Bioware has failed to convince me the MMO part will actually be something I want to play (to the point I'm not going to pre-order anymore, and might even pass on the game altogether, instead going after TSW and GW2).
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 8:26PM Utakata said

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@DarkWalker

I don't know either. It looks like our views are being censored for some "odd" reason. Even though we haven't said anything negative about AoC or have trolled. And our opinions have been put forth in a reasonable manner.

Surely then, there can't be peeps obsessively spamming the downgrade button when anything bad said against SWTOR - like Ren54 spams his nonsense with anyone who says anything bad about RIFT in a SWTOR thread. That would mean they are just as low and ridiculous as he was. But I guess you can't take away voting priveledges, until Massively neuters this feature for good. /sigh
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 11:08PM JuliusSeizure said

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@DarkWalker

I suspect it was the locusts remark, and in your case the perceived complaining about the downvoting Uta got.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2011 11:58AM Utakata said

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@JuliusSeizure

But why would that get down graded? That has been a common occurance for all new triple A MMO's past WoW. I will point out that does not mean the game is going to fail...as long as it has a enough players to break even at the end, like with RIFT for example - which I presume they're still doing well after all the dust has settled.

So why is this a problem to make mention of this probable reality? What evidence will these silent "down graders" bring to me to prove that I am incorrect in doing so? So instead of instead hiding behind their voting cowardice...please tell me how am I wrong in making that prediction. I await for their answers.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:51PM BigAndShiny said

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Hmm, the fact is that once you reach SWTOR's endgame and the voiced story is up, you have the same raiding/pvp as in other games. And since AOC has more than one raid, fun pvp minigames, and a good community I can certainly see it being able to compete. SWTOR will blow it out of the water in terms of levelling experience, but at endgame, it really is what you prefer.

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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@BigAndShiny

Are you implying TOR only has one raid? I think not.....

"Please note, that even though the Eternity Vault is featured prominently here, it is not the only high-level Operation for you to experience in Star Wars: The Old Republic. More will be revealed..."

There is not enough known about TOR's endgame at this point to draw anything conclusive versus AOC.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:32PM BigAndShiny said

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@(Unverified) There will be one raid at launch, and a raid based around a hutt faction added 2-4 months after. Don't believe me? You may be disappointed.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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@BigAndShiny

No, I don't believe you. And unless you yourself are breaking the NDA by disclosing that information, I wouldn't be so apt to rely on what others are saying. However, even IF there was only 1 raid at launch, I don't expect to be max level raiding in 2-4 months anyways. I'm planning to enjoy the journey and not rush to endgame.
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