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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 8:11PM Faction 3 said

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Anyone find it HYSTERICAL that Mark Jacobs is calling ANY game crap?

The irony is just.....amazing...

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 12:31PM einstini15 said

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If you have to qualify your statement by saying "for a free game, they are good", then you are admitting that compared to subscription they are worse. What he is saying is that, games that you pay 15$ a month are better then f2p. They are. Because they have more capital to make it better.

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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:12PM Saerain said

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@Faction 3

Why's that?
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:40PM Faction 3 said

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@einstini15

So WAR is better than, say, League if Legends? Or Vindictus? Or Team Fortress 2? Or Ragnarok? Or LotR:O? Or AoC? Considereing those all have a F2P model of some kind....

....right....
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Posted: Oct 17th 2011 5:42AM Fabius Bile said

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@Faction 3
you have named 1 moba, 4 former P2P games that failed and only one game that was born F2P from inception
good job dude

but regardless, that 6 (and then some) are the tip of the iceberg. I can effortlessly name over 200 F2P games that are, by and large, far worse than WAR in every and each aspect.

I suppose thats what Crazy Mark refers to. That the VAST MAJORITY of F2P games are pure, utter horse shit.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2011 12:06PM Faction 3 said

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@Fabius Bile

Listen, Im not gonna argue semantics with you, champ. The point (that you're failing to see) is that "Crazy Mark" has no business or right to call ANY game crap after the goddamn tragedy he & his studio released over 3 years ago. Free2Play games or not, WAR was one of the biggest train-wrecks to ever be released. The fact that the CURRENT DEVELOPERS are calling it that too, and the fact that after 3 years, no proper Expansion was developed (to our knowledge) or released, should tell you something.

I'll definately agree with the fact that a VAST MAJORITY of F2Ps are garbage, however, certain titles, mostly the ones covered here (Maplestory, Glitch, Forsaken World, Allods, Dragon Nest, Vindictus, World of Tanks, Atlantica Online, every F2P Conversion out there, etc,) are head & shoulders above WAR in EVERY imagineable respect.

Hell, all things being equal, I'll take Eden Eternal over WAR any day.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2011 12:09PM Faction 3 said

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Lets also clarify, Im not calling any of the F2P games I listed great, awesome, fantastic, or anything else, they have their faults too, however, in comparison to WAR, its no match.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 8:26PM (Unverified) said

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Apologizing means nothing, only actions matter (and in MMOs, long term actions). To many companies are reaching for the fast buck, rather then building a good rep. Players are more likely to make microtransactions when their more engaged into the game world. That only possible by making a good game experience. I do strongly agree F2P just don't hold the same quality amd size as subscription games (though he could had said it nicer...)

Poor Eve is in a tough place; they have to make a choice to be loyal to their existing base, or overall to go mainstream there isn't much of a middle ground. I'm not downing you Eve folks, your very cool, but the game not for everyone. Adjusting Eve based on Dust however is just stupid, Dust is a first person shooter, a VERY different gaming type. CCP needs to makes some big decisions, but not ones for quick bucks.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 9:16PM Silverel said

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I like how incredibly hard it was for Rubi to come out and call Rift a competitor to WoW. She looked like she was going to throw up in her mouth a little.

D'awwwwww

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:51AM Utakata said

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@Silverel

Because she mentioned RIFT...or because she mentioned WoW?

...although I didn't notice her do anying of the sort. Then again, I don't drink strong liquor while watching podcasts. Just saying.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:52AM Utakata said

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@Utakata

*anything...sheesh.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 9:45PM Rubi said

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@Silverel I do remember really pausing over that discussion and choosing my words SO carefully! It's not because of strong feelings toward either game, it's just that I played WoW for a total of like ten minutes and I always feel like I need to be careful when trying to discuss it in any sort of depth.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 9:20PM ScottishViking said

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I am ashamed to admit that I resubbed to EVE with the $5 offer. I can handle apologies that are so affordable.

Posted: Oct 17th 2011 5:36AM Khai mann said

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@ScottishViking

I was one of the bitter vets and resubed a long time ago.... I don't feel ashamed and neither should you :)
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 9:35PM Silverel said

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@(Unverified) You're one of the dudes they talked about that salivate over the death of all MMO's aren't you?

Do you sleep well at night?

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 9:50PM Raikulxox said

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@Silverel I don't want any ill fortune to SWToR either, but I can tell you that's how I think too =/

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:03PM tooright said

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F2P games ARE crap

Sorry subs are coming back 2012 broski's bad devs take heed

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 10:39PM Super Nerd said

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@tooright While I do agree that most F2P games seem very sub-par to me (personal opinion), I'm playing League of Legends more than any other game right now.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:51PM j3w3l said

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@tooright
many sub based mmo's are terriblel as well, so it isnt just confined to ftp as everyone is trying to cash in on the mmo cash cow. At least with the free ones your haven't wasted any money on shoddy, bugged and unfinished games.
Admittingly it seems to be more an issue with ftp since they usually dont have as much financial backing and rely on player dollars to expand.
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 1:47AM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified)

You see that big with Aion, they play so different, they love grind, took a long time to fix aion for the US to the point of being playable.
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