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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:09PM Crell said

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#1 It takes spending REAL cash to get to premium (JUST buying something w/ earned TP will NOT do that)

#2 Moria Retail purchases made after November 2010 do NOT include the lothlorien QP. (See Release notes for U2).; You'll have access during the rental period. Loth QP is RENTAL content for VIPs.

#3 Lone Lands easily can carry you to 32ish.

Otherwise, a good article (Crell, Riddermark, and the subject of the MMorsel article.)

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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@Crell Thanks for the clarification -- I adjusted the article to reflect it. Party on!
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:52PM Crell said

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@Syp- "Find a boxed copy of Mines of Moria! While the prices on these boxes have gone up, if you can get a good deal on a Complete Edition of MoM, snag it. You'll get 30 days of game time, all of Moria and Lothlorien quests and deeds, the Rune-keeper and Warden class, and a couple of extra character slots. That's seriously awesome."
Still not seeing a change here. (See #2). ; You aren't permanently acquiring Lothlorien Quests and Deeds via this method.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:16PM Pojoh said

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Yesterday, a friend was telling me of an Rk at lvl 75 that wanted to know why his character sucked in healing. Apparently he forgot to spend some tp points on trait slots.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:26PM Knuxson said

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I am a F2P player and it is great to inform new players on what they should expect and on the best way to spend TP in the game. There were a few times when I first started playing that I spent TP on things I wish I hadn't. For instance, you can spend TP to expand your vault. However, all but the last 2 vault upgrades I believe can be upgraded with in-game gold. I spent TP on two vault upgrades before I realized and I was kicking myself.

I also would stress that new players go ahead and subscribe for a month because you save quite a bit of money on getting your bags and removing the currency cap. Also, this article says that you retain any trait slots you unlocked during the month but actually you unlock ALL trait slots for any characters that you log on as during that month of VIP. I can vouch for that because I subbed for one month and I have not had to spend any TP to unlock trait slots on my existing characters. However, if you make a new character after your VIP month is over you would have to spend TP on traits.

I have reached the point on my TP spending that I can't think of anything I want to buy. I eventually got all the quest packs, instances, skirmishes, and a few other things like auction house slots and shared storage. The great thing about being a F2P player, even though you might spend a good chunk of money to get all the content that you want, is that if you continue playing for awhile it will eventually pay for itself because you won't be paying a monthly fee.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:44PM Knuxson said

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@Knuxson Clarification: if you sub for a month you unlock all trait slots even if you haven't reached the minimum level for that trait slot. I have not had to spend TP to unlock trait slots on the minstrel I have been leveling. When I reach the level for that trait slot it is automatically unlocked without spending TP.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 2:50PM Knuxson said

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@Knuxson Clarification on my clarification (sorry! I wish I could edit): the minstrel I mentioned was created during my one month of VIP but I didn't start leveling her until after my VIP month ended and her traits still automatically unlocked when I reached the required level.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 3:24PM Caerus said

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@Knuxson

Because of this, it's also a good idea to create a full stable of characters and log in with each one at least once during your VIP month. VIP gets you +2 character slots for the duration of your subscription, but the characters you chose to lose access to when it expires retain all of the unlocks.

It's much cheaper (~400? TP) to purchase an additional character slot to unlock access to one of your locked slots than it is to purchase the trait/bag/virtue slots on each toon.

The #1 recommendation for this article really should've been "Subscribe for 1 month" - it's between 10 and 15 dollars depending on if there's a deal going, which is less than the cost of 2 bags and a couple traits.

I really love the LotRO approach to F2P, because it makes me feel like all 3 playstyles (Free, Premium, VIP) are genuinely accepted by the developers as legitimate routes to gameplay instead of forcing you to subscribe. I had a sub for maybe 4-6 months around a year ago, and I have spent some cash on TP and a sub month here and there since then that I would never have done if I didn't still feel appreciated as a Premium player.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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TWO THINGS that Massively and its readers SHOULD KNOW and yet it seems that you dont....

1 - 90% of players in almost ALL AAA games (eastern crap excluded) DO NOT GRIND FOR ANYTHING. They actually enjoy playing the game correctly (ie how its intended to be played)

2 - More than HALF of all players DO NOT create more than one character per faction. Most games have a TON of content and players dont find it fun it create 10+ characters to repeat all the same content with.

The problem is that these majorities are busy PLAYING and not sitting online reading mmo blog and websites. They PLAY the game. They dont sit and fight 1000 mobs in a row to feel special about dinging faster. They dont want 20 characters when they can see and do everything with 1-2 and most likely, will barely get to see for than half the game because they take their time.

I'm just hoping MASSIVELY will create a few columns for all the people that ARE NOT the "Vocal Minority"

That said, GREAT COLUMN! LOTRO does have a lot to offer. I do think Turbine should cut the prices of most store items in half, though there are a lot of cheap stuff. A lot of people play the game but once they finish their starter zone (breeland, etc..) a lot of the epic quest line and other quests are LOCKED OUT. Regardless if someone can visit that particular zone. So they earn points from completing those special achievements so they can get stuff from store. Honestly, it IS pointless for someone to spend $10-20 a month on store items and still be locked out of the game.

Except for FE, AOC and COH, LOTRO does offer the most for free players without spending a dime.

I wish F2p was NEVER an option for any of these AAA games, If they just PROMOTED they would all have millions of new players and wouldnt have to cater to cheap players. I will never play for free, only if its the first month and I play free to see what the game is like. But after a month or less, I either subscribe or find a game I like enough to subscribe.

Even though some f2p players are really cool, having a f2p game brings in more pieces of crap than it keeps out. So all f2p games, no matter how great, will have a large population of the WORST KIND of players - meaning... level rushers, "power" gamers, gear junkies, grinders, farmers, channel trolls, auction house/channel trade abusers, harrassers, spelling correctors, attention misfits, erotic RP trashbags and the like. ALL mmorpgs have these types of players, but f2p games seem to have them in excess. Probably because they dont have to put down any personal info or a credit card (prolly they dont have one since they are either 10 or a 50yr old living in grandmas basement with a paper route)

But, except for FE, COH and the dying SWG = LOTRO has the best community of players I have ever seen! Def worth a shot people! GL!

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 6:01PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) I wonder WHERE you got YOUR numbers when YOU say that MORE than half of PLAYERS don't create more THAN one character. I'm pretty SURE altoholism is as RAMPANT in any GAME as is your USE of CAPS here.
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Posted: Oct 15th 2011 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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As many commenters have already confirmed, the "subscribe for one month" gambit is absolute gold.

With the unlocks that gives you across all characters (as Caerus said, create a full stable of characters during your VIP month), you hardly need to spend TPs on anything other than content from that point onwards. I think the only other purchase I've made is crafting guild unlocks (which were only a couple of dollars). But apart from that, buy TPs when they're on sale, spend them on quest packs when THEY are on sale, and you can unlock the entire game, for life, for not too much money.

And the game? Second best quest themepark ever, after WoW, in my opinion.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 6:00PM scrubmonkey said

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Purchace: Evindim, Eregion, Moria box (5$, if it's still around), Edenwaith, and the new Isen update. Best way to buy Eregion and Evindim is to purchase one with the free month from the Moria box, and re-sub "for one month" somewhere down the line and use those points for Eregion.

That's enough content to get as MANY characters as you have slots to level cap + most of the relavant endgame content for just slightly over 45$.

That is the cleanest path through the game in terms of cost and lack of grind, IMO.

VIP is, without a doubt, the least efficient option, purely because they have added no new perks to subscribers since the F2P conversion. VIPs are stuck buying all the new features with their 500TP a month allotment on top of their sub.

Posted: Oct 15th 2011 11:14PM wfseg said

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They have sales every week. Just be patient and you can get all the quest packs for 20% or more off. :)

Posted: Oct 16th 2011 3:03AM cowboyhugbees said

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Also, if you buy Turbine points from a retail outlet (Wal-Mart started stocking them recently, I think, as did GameStop), you can get bonus TP ($20 will get you 2000 + bonus 500).

Posted: Oct 17th 2011 11:17AM jaycrockett said

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@cowboyhugbees $20 gets you 1600, $25 is 2000. Rarely can you get points at .01 at point. A common bit of microtransaction deception (XBox live says hi)
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Posted: Oct 16th 2011 2:53PM ddavidt said

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Subscribing players are renting content, free/premium players own it.

Posted: Oct 17th 2011 12:01PM Gurumba said

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Can anyone confirm the advice above with a possible twist from the author's idea - Can I buy the Shadows of Angrim code for $2, and add it to an existing account for 30 days of play, and therefore VIP status? I've spent tons of money on LoTRO in the past on this account, yet never really got a chance to play it solidly (game + Moria + Mirkwood), just in case you're thinking I'm trying to get away cheaply, I'm honestly just trying to save some cash, and give LoTRO a real go at the same time. Thank you, kindly.

Posted: Oct 17th 2011 2:05PM Crell said

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@Gurumba If you've never added a key for moria, or mirkwood or isengard it should work, provided its a turbine key.
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Posted: Oct 19th 2011 5:24AM Imagine said

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Guys,I did preorder RoI,can i still use Shadows of Angmar code and get one month vip?I didnt use any codes before preorder.

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