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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 5:38PM BigAndShiny said

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One thing I'm really surprised about is no Asian launch. If they want/need/would like WoW numbers, they should know that more than half (I think) of WoW subs are in Asia and they are unlikely to ever reach 2 million+ unless they go into this market majorly.
Nothing to do with the game, I have my own opinions, just making what seems an obvious point.

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:22PM Oskiee said

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@BigAndShiny

I love how everyone assumes they want WoW like numbers. I can bet Blizz didnt think theyd get the numbers they did. I fully expect BioWare to know that.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:29PM real65rcncom said

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@Oskiee
Agree.

I've seen it a few times now that if TOR can sell 2 million boxes and get just 25% of those people to retain, that's still 500k subs. Considering they are projected to sell at least 3 million, 2 million should be cake.

Anything thinking they can't keep 25% is probably crazy or hating big time in the face of conventional wisdom.

Even Warhammer had sold just under one million "units" in the first six months and they were able to retain 300K subs as they announced in that first December.

I expect TOR to be twice as good as Warhammer PvE wise and four times as bug free content wise.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:42PM Fabius Bile said

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@BigAndShiny
asian numbers are simply that, numbers.

their pay by hour model is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper than a standard sub, and in half of the asian countries players dont even pay for the client/expacs.

Im sure BioWare will be a lot happier (and wealthier) with 2m western subs that they would be with 8m asian players.

leave the asian market for later, its purely a PR move.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 8:54PM kylowe said

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@BigAndShiny

LoL WOW numbers, WOW started with 245,000 subs (240,000 pre-order sales) at start and slowly built their player base over the months. Also not including Asia is a smart move as that is where 80% of scammers, and haackers come from and why be in a rush to include that??

SWTOR has just shy of 600,000 US Retail Pre-orders as of Monday and that is not including Europe, or Digital sales which can easily put it at 1.5 million pre-orders as of today and it still has 2 months to go.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 5:40PM JuliusSeizure said

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Just checked my email, and I got in. Not sure yet if I'm going to go for it, though. I'm having so much fun in CoH and every time I hear something more about TOR I become less interested in it.

Then again, it's a way to confirm my disinterest without paying a cent and I'm sure it will be somewhat enjoyable in the short term.

/ponder

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 5:46PM Lucidus said

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@JuliusSeizure Decide when it's free rather than waste money and rage.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:02PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Lucidus

Actually, it's more like 'play now or don't bother until there's a trial version'.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:08PM Resurge said

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@JuliusSeizure i'll be glad to take that invite off your hands if it's an issue :)
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:00PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Resurge

Can't do, sorry. The invite is tied specifically to my forum account, and that's tied to my secret 'sign up to stuff to keep private' email.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 10:30PM Tizmah said

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@JuliusSeizure Hey a lot of people are trying to get into that beta. At least log in or something...It kind of an insult to us if you don't
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 10:42PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Tizmah

I can decline, in which case I assume someone else will get invited in my place. I just want a few hours to think it over. ;)
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 1:12AM duyth said

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@JuliusSeizure
Come on. I don't think Bioware is going to send your key to someone else if you don't use it. So, please don't waste the key. Go for it , or pass it to someone else who is dying for a beta key will you? (me :) ? )
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 2:07AM JuliusSeizure said

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@duyth

I think you don't understand. There are two options given at the page the email directs you to: Accept Invite or Decline Invite. Considering I could just ignore it, I don't see any reason for a decline option unless it's to send out a new invite for someone else.

Anyway, I guess I'm gonna give it a go. I like the aesthetics of the game and the voices are well done as far as I've seen. And it's not like I hate the gameplay style, just unenthusiastic.
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Posted: Oct 12th 2011 8:33PM JoolaPrime said

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@JuliusSeizure

"I think you don't understand. There are two options given at the page the email directs you to: Accept Invite or Decline Invite. Considering I could just ignore it, I don't see any reason for a decline option unless it's to send out a new invite for someone else."

If you accept you're able to play but you'll be removed from the beta pool and wont be invited again (since there are so many testers waiting in line).

If you decline you wont be able to play but you do go back into the beta pool and may be randomly picked again.

If you do nothing you won't be able to play and you'll be removed from the beta selection pool.
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Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:09PM Resurge said

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seeing all these beta invite posts and never getting one myself, even though i've been a community member at their site for close to 3 years is sorta like slow torture.....

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:25PM real65rcncom said

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grats Aussies... enjoy!

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:39PM SKYeXile said

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lol still no release date for AU..."we just cant seem to figure out how to let them digitally download unlimited copies of our game , then charge them more for an inferior service...we're going to see if we can nail it in beta."

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 6:48PM mmogaddict said

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I can confirm an Aussie account with an Aussie address just got in. :)

Posted: Oct 11th 2011 7:28PM Tovrin said

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Good news! I wonder if this means they have changed their minds about not releasing in Oceanic regions at launch?

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