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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 6:45PM Danteeeee said

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Signed up for it a couple days ago, looks sort of interesting, I guess I'll see if I get access.

Posted: Oct 5th 2011 6:51PM real65rcncom said

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The mmo industry is like people who breed in family.

For years, all people saw were elves and dwarves, elves and dwarves, elves and dwarves in just about every mmo. People got to the point where just the mention of the word "elf" was a meme. Everyone kept saying/asking "Why can't we have someone make a different kind of game?"

So now here it is years later and what kind of games are coming out? Everything with guns, post nuclear or some kind of afterwar scenario. Seriously, they are breeding devs to close to the gene pool because all the thinking is mob-like.

This is what happens when you have the same devs all working with the same people on the same projects.. the ideas just get stagnant because they are recyclyed in-house and people bouncing the same ideas off each other. There was a scientific term for what is happening in the industry now where when the same species interbreeds, things get weaker over time as far as ideas but I forget the term.

This isn't a knock on the developers of this game; maybe they have a new twist to their game and I hope indie companies make it, but honestly it really shows what happens to these people in a bubble. Everyone seems to arrive at "new ideas" at the same time.

Posted: Oct 5th 2011 6:56PM corpusc said

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@real65rcncom

we need lots of attempts at the same gameplay genre.
we need lots of attempts at the same setting genre.

most of them will be bad, but there has to be many available in order to have a great chance at ONE of them being good.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 9:16PM (Unverified) said

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@real65rcncom Actually ... you hit the nail on the head. WTF? Another Fallout wannabe. Now the big game is to beat the other guy out the gate. OK ... we have Fallen Earth and soon a Fallout MMO so this Dev will have to scramble to get this title out. Not sure about that. Can someone please make a Zombie MMO that has FPS combat (no buffs or haste or crit). Man, I really feel for Massively ... there is just nothing good out on the horizon.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 10:11PM Spacegrass said

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How are post-apocalyptic MMOs overused, exactly? There's Fallen Earth, which hardly anyone plays, L.A.W. which I've only just now heard of, and the Fallout MMO that's never getting made. If anything, there need to be more.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 10:33PM real65rcncom said

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@Spacegrass said: "How are post-apocalyptic MMOs overused, exactly? There's Fallen Earth, which hardly anyone plays, L.A.W. which I've only just now heard of, and the Fallout MMO that's never getting made. If anything, there need to be more. "
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It's not the post-apocolyptic world exactly, more like the theme of it. Example: A game like Global Agenda. That is the future world based on gun technology. Then there's Planetside 2. Then there's Earthrise. Then there's Prime, battle for Dominus. Then there's Firefall.

What I mean is a bunch of new mmos and "near mmos" that are all coming out now that are gun based after being saturated for so many years with ice and fireball shooters.

I'm not complaining about diversity.. I like that new styles are coming out because I can't stomach another "elf" game period. But I don't think you get what I'm saying.

These industry cycles are just that.. cycles, because all the same devs just move on from Company A to Company B. They take someone's old idea they heard at lunch five years ago and put it in their new game or base one around that. So naturally all these games 'arrive' at the same time in conciousness in a succession that floods the market with them. Homogenius thought changed slightly from game to game.

The only way this will change is bringing in more people from outside the typcial mmo world; more people who make console games like Bioware or Shiny that made games familiar, but totally different like MDK. There are a lot of good concepts that never see the light of day because of the stodgy "old boy" network inherent in gaming, so these mmos always tend to turn out very much the same.

It's time to expand the definition and throw the old "grindem dungeon mode" out or not make it as paramount. New ideas hardly ever come from inside the industry; they more likely will come outside of it.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 7:03PM Saker said

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Cheesy trailer. Cat-people? Oy.... But hey maybe it'll be fun, who knows!

Posted: Oct 5th 2011 7:13PM real65rcncom said

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The problem is it's the same people by and large. As the saying goes, "you can't get blood out of a stone". Expecting different results from the same people involved is not rational.

I hate to bring up RIFT but that's what I mean.. same people from WAR, WoW, EQ2 working on the same type of project so you get the same results. The employees just change headquarters or coasts but they bring the same stale ideas they've been talking to Employee A in Virginia for years over to Employee B in Seattle. Nothing changes very much. It's comfort zone and few leave it.

Gun mmos were underused by now become overused for this reason; all the people's "epiphanies" arrive at the same time.

The only way it ever changes is when people who aren't really part of the typical industry's churn cycle (hirings, firings) start making games on their own. Bringing in CEO from Game Y will always always guarantee your product will end up (in a bad way) like Game Z overall.

Posted: Oct 5th 2011 7:23PM Resurge said

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@real65rcncom ^^ he's right, you know.

Thank god for WoD, and TSW ..at least something new on the horizon. Of course by the time they come out, we will all have played 1500 cheap knock-off F2P horror/monster themed MMO's and hate it as much as the apocalypse and fantasy elf-orc lands we have now.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 7:27PM corpusc said

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@real65rcncom

sooooo...... everybody go back to orcs & elves?

think about what you're saying.

just because you noticed a pattern doesn't mean we are swimming in post apoc and/or MMOFPS options yet. not by a long shot.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 7:29PM corpusc said

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....and more importantly.....

not a single GOOD one..... yet..... and there won't be, without more of them coming out.
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Posted: Oct 5th 2011 10:13PM Spacegrass said

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It's too early to pass judgement, but... screw it, this is the Internet, it's never too early to pass judgement. This game looks like ass and a half.

Posted: Oct 5th 2011 11:15PM Utakata said

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Hey! An MMO that allows you to build a Walmart on a post apocalyptic Earth sounds intriguing. O.O

Posted: Oct 6th 2011 6:17AM demonlife said

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Post-nuclear furries?

Posted: Oct 6th 2011 4:43PM (Unverified) said

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At first I was like :D then I saw "alaPlaya" and I was like :(

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