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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:03PM real65rcncom said

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Guessing they aren't happy to hear that Diablo 3 got pushed back to 2012.

Meh, more testing never hurt especially if your competiton isn't ready either.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:18PM Deadalon said

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@real65rcncom
Diablo 3 is only delayed because of the Real money auction house and the legal issues that are coming up in diffrent countries because a it is on the same account as a game for 12 year old kid.

Blizzard will do anything to get this AH into the game - not because it is good for the players - but because it makes them money. If they wanted to secure the safety of the players they could simply limit gear to accounts + when a character is there when item drops. If it makes the game "harder" to get good items then the issue is mainly caused by Blizzard Cause random is still a range created by them.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:25PM aaradun said

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@real65rcncom diablo was always 2012 lo, never got pushed back. was always due for 2012
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 1:31PM SmilinGoat said

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@Ren54

yeah almost too much though, while i know testers dont make or break a game, they do have a bigger impact than he lets on.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 2:00PM (Unverified) said

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@Ren54

Damn, I actually agree with something you said. Drat!
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 10:47PM ClanPsi said

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@real65rcncom Nobody in their right mind EVER expected D3 to release in 2011. In fact, nobody should expect it to release in 2012 either, it's Blizzard.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:13PM Deadalon said

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Intresting... Conisdering that part of the staff is from Mythic that failed so miserably with WAR - I would be very conserned about comments like this.

Thankfully - I dont live in a EU country that is accepted to play the game acording to Origin. But that on its own tells you how much Bioware cares about ppl.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:16PM heerobya said

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@Deadalon

Cry me a river?

Is this your first MMO because here in the USA we have to wait months/years to get games imported from Korea.

You'll get the game in your region if and when they are ready to distribute it there, and if not then boo hoo I'm sorry?

What do you want them to say? Global worldwide release in 90 different languages across 13 times zones with a THOUSAND servers?

Put down the crack pipe.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:25PM Deadalon said

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@heerobya

I live in Iceland. We have followed every single MMo game release in EU since we are using the same network. Lets name few games that started same day as all others in EU. Eve... Made in Iceland. WOW - WAR - LOTRO ... Infact every single game.

This has nothing to do with support - Neither has it to do with language since Iceland plays all their games in English. We use exact same client as others. And neither has it to do with that 300.000 population of Iceland would put so much extra strain on the servers.

No - its Bioware and their selective way of sorting ppl based on where they live that is the issue. But it shows how little the company cares and so be it.

Im not crying about it. Just stating simple facts - Including that Bioware is offering the least ammount of support of any MMo game released in EU for the past 5 years. Sounds like a great start ?
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:54PM Link064 said

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@Deadalon
Oh look, the "Bioware is being racist/discriminating against me because they aren't officially launching in my country first" argument wrapped neatly in a "this game is going to fail because it isn't launching in my country" argument. Really, don't you guys ever get tired of forcing yourself to believe such nonsense?

Man, NCSoft must be super-racist against Icelanders too because Blade and Soul isn't launching first in Iceland. And Square-Enix must be super-racist against you too because FFXI launched first in Japan. They're even worse because a PS2 version was never released in ALL OF EUROPE.

I think it's about time you guys took off your tinfoil hats and stopped pretending everyone is out to get you.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Deadalon

Why is it that when individuals are part of a team of a failed project, that from they on they as individuals should be branded as failures from that point on? Wouldn't it be better to have people experienced in aspects of everything going wrong to make sure it doesn't happen again?

Take Asheron's Call, they develop a sucessful MMO, but try again the second time and it doesn't even come close to the sucess of the first game (which by the way is still running). Maybe experiencing the worst is a good thing don't you think?
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 1:45PM (Unverified) said

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@Deadalon
If you have every been involved in the roll-out of a global software product, then you know that doing it by region makes a whole lot of sense, logistically. I don't mean that it can't be done big bang, but you are buying that with a lot of baggage, e.g. sales support, product support, etc.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 2:32PM Deadalon said

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I have been part of many rollout sofware products before in same field.. Lets name few shall we in the past 7 years.

EQ2
WOW
LOTRO
WAR
AOC
EVE
AION

And to reply to some of the ludicrous posts here before. I do not expect that any game launches in Iceland BEFORE any other country. I expect that a EU release of any product supports the same level of quality that other games of simulare features and standards have been releasing in the past 7 years regading distribution. If a company can not support that sort of release in EU - then I have every right to doubt their ability to maintain and support their game.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 3:11PM Lenn said

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@Deadalon What exactly is the problem? Did plans change about releasing it in EU a mere three days after the US? It's not that big a deal, is it?
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 3:39PM Deadalon said

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@Lenn

Its only released in part of EU. Many countries are not included. Countries that have been supported with every major MMO release in the past 7 years.

This includes all eastern EU countries. Also includes western countries like Iceland that have always been considered as part of the Nordic countries and UK release. Icelandic players can not buy the product through Origin cause the message "Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is not available in your region" Im sorry but what is my region if Im not part of EU?
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 4:16PM Lenn said

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@Deadalon I misunderstood your earlier post. Yeah, I know what you mean. It sucks, but at least there won't be any IP blocks, so you're not completely barred from playing.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 5:01PM Deadalon said

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@Lenn

We can not trust them on the IP blocks. They are putting IP blocks on Origin and the EULA of the box + official comments do not guaranty players outside the selected EU contries to have any right to play the game at launch.

After all - the comment clearly states that the game is not supported in my region. Meaning that any problem I face will not be delt with by Bioware. That gives them right to do whatever they want tbh. Not buying a box based on that.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 5:09PM Deadalon said

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@Ren54

True - Rift is also on the list. Been playing it over last 6 months from release in EU. And Beta before tthat. OFC the current SWTOR does not include any beta players from the "second class" EU countries.

Basicly - All I can do and those players that have been playing MMOs for the last 5-10 years can do is to keep hammering the facts. This selective disission making has nothing to do with quality or support. It has to do with other things and shows total lack of moral sense from Bioware.

If Bioware is really gonna claim tha 300K nation like Iceland is gonna effect the gameplay or server load for the rest of EU... then let them be my guest. It just shows and proofs it has absolutly nothing to do with it.

And this is what I will continue to post in pretty much every topic created about SWTOR here on this side + many other MMO sides around the net.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 7:27PM j3w3l said

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@Deadalon
i forgot who said it recently but a game developer said the reason games often release later in EU is because the EU market is a lot more unforgiving about buggy games. They basically use America as bug testers
although i have to say biowares complete disregard for many countries is not only rude but just bad marketing
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:14PM DasMadHatter said

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