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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:09AM nimzy said

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Glad to hear the good news. I still get a newsletter from them every once in a while.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:10AM Saerain said

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I admit: although I was rooting for Bethesda in this case previously, the stupidity with Mojang has soured my preconceptions.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:18AM hami83 said

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@Saerain Yeah. I understand protecting your products, but they don't own the Fallout IP as a whole and cease and desisting someone cause their game is called Scrolls saying it's trademark infringement.

But last I check, their trademark is ELDER scrolls.

They have been acting pretty stupid.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:22AM relgoth said

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@Saerain
Hows that mojang thing going anyways? cant believe they are sueing because someone used a word in their title for a game that has no similarites to the game itself.

Kind of like getting sued by wendys for calling my pig in game baconator.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:26AM Eamil said

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@hami83

"but they don't own the Fallout IP as a whole"

Yes they do. Interplay sold them the Fallout IP as a whole and then (as part of the conditions of the sale agreement) Bethesda gave Interplay a license to make an MMO as long as Interplay met certain conditions.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:27AM DevilSei said

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@relgoth
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/10211854536/update-on-the-scrolls-lawsuit-and-a-list-of-games

Its still in the "Lawyer mutts barking at each other across the yard" phase. Posted 9 days ago, last I've seen of it though. I doubt Bethesda will actually win their case. If I remember right, Notch told them about it and they didn't object to it then.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:37AM hami83 said

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@Eamil My apologies, you are correct. They own the IP, but the contract stipulates that Interplay can develop an MMOG for Fallout.

The only conditions that they meet is.
1. Get 30 million in funding.
2. Full scale development within 24 months of the contracts creation.
3. Finish the game in 4 years after the start of full scale development.
4. Launch the game within 12 years of finishing the game
5. The game isn't shut down for more than 3 months.

My guess is Bethesda either thinks the contract has been violated, or are just trying to stop the MMO from being made.

Actually reading the whole contract, it looks like Interplay got the short end of the stick.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:51AM killias2 said

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@hami83
Interplay just wanted money. They're not really a video game company anymore, so they didn't have any way of using the license anyway.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 12:09PM Eamil said

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@hami83

Yeah, that's about the size of it. Interplay was pretty desperate for a cash infusion at the time, though. Which they are again... If they don't have an actual game ready soon, this entire lawsuit may be moot anyhow.

This is kind of beside the point but we've yet to see so much as a screenshot from the game so I remain skeptical that any kind of progress has been made in terms of "full-scale development."

Anyway, obligatory not-a-lawyer disclaimer, but at least as far as Interplay holding up the conditions they agreed to, I don't think that's happened, so I don't blame Bethesda for suing over this. What I do have a problem with is that since the original suit was filed, BOTH sides have piled up even more claims on each other, and most of them are completely idiotic. It's like their lawyers are just throwing crap at each other to see what sticks.

I have a hard time feeling sympathetic to Interplay when their CEO tries to say "if Bethesda wins this lawsuit then the sale agreement is void and we get the Fallout IP back."
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 1:10PM houser said

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@Eamil I don't know, Bethesda tried to pull off that Interplay only licensed the term Fallout and not any of the associated things like Pipboy's, super mutants, etc.

Maybe that was legally true, but I'm not particularly moved to side with Bethesda either in this. Now the Black Isle crew (and others, and not the QA guys) that made New Vegas, THEY would be people I would support in running Fallout from here on out.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 2:00PM Eamil said

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@houser

"I don't know, Bethesda tried to pull off that Interplay only licensed the term Fallout and not any of the associated things like Pipboy's, super mutants, etc."

This is the kind of thing I'm talking about. When they first sued they weren't trying to say that.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:14AM NeoWolfen said

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CAN continue work on it and HAVE are streets apart though, I mean when was the last development update on the game? Putting the site up and a few concepts seems to be about as far as its gone lol

I love Fallout but all these to and fro'ing of litigation is only hurting the brand and the fanbase. Bethesda should give it a rest its not like they invented Fallout anyway they simply revived it.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:20AM Pure Black World Tendency said

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Does this MMORPG even exist? I thought it was just a few concept paintings meant to wring some extra dollars out of the deal made with Bethesda.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:42AM paterah said

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@Pure Black World Tendency Beta in the first half of 2012 if I remember correctly.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:44AM killias2 said

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@Pure Black World Tendency
This is pretty much true. There are still TONS of idiots who think that Interplay will restore Fallout to its proper Fallout 1 and 2 style gameplay while also making it an MMORPG.

That's utterly absurd.
Interplay is not even really a video game producer anymore. They haven't really been doing that for 7 or 8 years. Their development studio has like one big name from the early days of Fallout (someone who basically hasn't done anything since).

Meanwhile, Fallout New Vegas basically had the same core creative team as the Van Buren Fallout 3.. as well as the same setting, basic story, and premise. Yet this garnered no credit at all from these knuckleheads...
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:23AM TolaGarf said

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They should just buyout Interplay if they feel so passionable about the IP. How much can this company even be worth these days? It's like a sinking ship..

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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Bethesda has been acting like a bunch of jerks and bullies recently.

Really hurts my perception of them.

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:47AM killias2 said

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I agree 100% when it comes to Mojang. With Interplay, however, I honestly couldn't give a good God damn. They're not even a ghost of their former selves. Interplay died a long, long time ago. This is just some evil zombie trying to make a little bit of money for Interplay's debtors by creating false expectations that this will come to fruition and be any good.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 11:29AM Ali93 said

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I bet the game will be crap anyway

Posted: Sep 23rd 2011 1:15PM houser said

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@Ali93 If it is even made, yeah. That's the troubling thing of it, I'd be more stoked if the original crew (or at least talented people with a track record and inspiration from the original stuff) was involved and this had some real hope of being good.
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