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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:13PM aaradun said

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Is it really that slow of a news day that you put this up. I really fail to see the point of this article.

Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:37PM Utakata said

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@aaradun

You should read Snow Crash. A story he did almost 20 years ago, which is one of the classic cyberpunks that predicted a world connected by a metaverse...which pretty much a social MMO long before the term MMO existed. In this article he pretty much admits to it. Thus this is very much relevant...since Neal maybe accidentally one of the founding fathers.of MMO's conceptually. Maybe even more so than Richard Bartle.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:43PM ScottishViking said

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@aaradun Too general interest for you? This guy is one of science fiction and cyberpunk's greatest minds. A very large number of people are interested in what he has to say.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:08PM Zoan said

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@aaradun

I think this article is very relevant to Massively, considering one of the main plot devices of Reamde is a fictional MMO of epic proportions.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:27PM aaradun said

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@Zoan The point is that i'm willing that most mmo player don't read books (maybe the older crowd) but most don't and most haven't read his book or even have a clue who this guy is. God knows i read a lot and i have no clue who this guy is.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 2:26PM pcgneurotic said

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@aaradun

There are many more books and authors in heaven and on earth than you can even dream of, kid. Just because you haven't heard of him or understand the relevance, doesn't mean a lot of other young and old people do. xP

Personally speaking, I read Snow Crash in 1997 when I was working at an Electronics Boutique. I liked it, but I'm not a cyberpunk fan generally.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 2:30PM pcgneurotic said

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@pcgneurotic

lolol, "don't", rather. Doh! :D
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 3:40PM Saker said

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@ScottishViking The Diamond Age is a very important book. Should be read to understand what the future could be. Very smart man.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 9:49PM Borick said

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@aaradun Bite your tongue!

Snowcrash gave us a vision of the MMO back during the MUD days. Stephenson is quite relevent to the genre.

and Anathem is one of the best sci-fi novels in recent years.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:17PM Space Cobra said

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I need to find out more about this guy, but I remember some years ago, around the time Shadowrun PnP was introduced, that "credit" (credits) would replace cash currency very soon; it was easy to use a card and so on (either debit of giving you a line of credit) and, authors and many predicted, cash would be replaced soon.

Well, it hasn't because their are still many uses for cash in the real world for many reasons; which is what I predicted. Of course, if we go even farther, the future (or now) would have been all moonbases and jet-packs because not many of those folks saw the internet and other things.

Of course their are some legal hangups with virtual currency, which governments want to control (and get a piece of the pie). Then there are some moral dilemmas, too; it is partly why I am curious as to how bit-coin is different from other virtual money trading currencies.

He has a point of informality, which is how the internet grew (but not started), however, corporations and governments always want to put their hands and take a "piece of the action" whenever money is involved.

Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:50PM Space Cobra said

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@Space Cobra

Damn "their" typos snuck up on my "there" and kidnapped it! ;P
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:18PM Niieh said

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Reamde seems like a fun book!

For people who love reading AND MMO's, For The Win by Cory Doctorow is also a cool book, and you can download it for free: http://craphound.com/ftw/download/

Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:24PM rotcafnogaw said

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WTB that beard

Posted: Sep 21st 2011 12:51PM Streamweaver said

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Come on guys, a little professionalism here. If you talk about an article please link the original source article:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2011/09/19/neal-stephenson-reamde-video-games/

It seems petty or amateurish if you don't.

Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:07PM Jef Reahard said

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@Streamweaver

Umm, check the source link below the article?
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:09PM Jef Reahard said

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@Jef Reahard

Actually I forgot, if you're on a mobile device that part of our site is currently borked and doesn't display
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:25PM Space Cobra said

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@Jef Reahard

It's easy to miss even on the PC; gotta tell your Web guys to either enlarge the font for "Source" or make it more noticeable. Maybe a red color or a small yellow explode symbol or a blinking one. The grey lines are fine to separate it from the article, but easy for the eye to miss.

Oh and the site is still too white-bright! :P
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 4:32PM Jef Reahard said

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@Space Cobra

Haha, yeah I know it's not the best place for a source link. Not my call, unfortunately. I had to respond with words like petty and amateur getting thrown around, though, particularly when the link was in fact there from the beginning.

Also in this case I went back and linked in the last paragraph proper, but we do have guidelines as to how many links can be in a post, so that won't always be a possibility.
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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 5:12PM Celtar said

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@Space Cobra


One of the things I do like about this web site Space Cobra is that its not a dark color or black etc. MMORPG.com is and its one that I gave up reading after a while in favor of this due to the eye strain from such a dark colored web site.

Jef thanks for posting the article and link to Neal on Forbes, one of the great authors out there.

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Posted: Sep 21st 2011 1:45PM GMickey001 said

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I for one think this was a great catch for an article on massively. Thanks Jef...

I also definately think that Mr. Stephenson is a true visionary and comparable to an H.G. Wells of my generation.

Im for sure grabbing up this latest book...

Peace all...

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