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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 1:47PM Oyjord said

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I'd give my left nut for a DAoC 2. It's a brilliant, brilliant game...just dated.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 1:55PM SkuzBukit said

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With a game this old is there any point in revamping the new starter experience at all?

Maybe if there is an overhaul of the graphics, sound & assests, maybe.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:31PM Kalis said

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@SkuzBukit
Maybe they are planning to go F2P in the future?
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:49PM Oyjord said

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@Kalis

I imagine DAoC could be right up there next to LOTRO in successful F2P conversions. I just think EA is: a) too f'ing stupid to see that, b) too f'ing lazy to make it happen, or c) all of the above.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 4:32PM Bladerunner83 said

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@Oyjord

Why change something that works? Even when they stated, the game continues to see a “large amount of returning and brand-new players" each month. DAoC has been a successful subscription game for nearly 10 years. Any deviation to the veteran player’s experience and you will have another Star Wars Galaxies uproar. Then you lose your dedicated subscribers, and replace them with free-loading gamers that may or may not pay a dime. Failing subscription games switch to F2P because that is their last resort; DAoC is not failing.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 5:01PM Bladerunner83 said

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@SkuzBukit

They have implemented a new starter area for all new arrivals. It’s a whole new zone for each faction, and a combination of a few towns and outposts. There are numerous new quests that give you experience and items, such as weapons, trinkets, and a full set of armor. The quests in the beginning introduce you to the combat mechanics and some trade crafting. Then when you’re done with that area, you can teleport to the main land; I think it’s around level 15 or so.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:23PM Darkmoone said

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Kinda sad, they've dumbed games down so much you need to go a in-game school to play the older MMO's.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:49PM smartstep said

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@Darkmoone

I agree. Hand holding everywhere :/
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:51PM Jetflame3 said

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@Darkmoone Agreed
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 3:19PM Sean D said

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@Darkmoone

I like tutorials. They help me to become familiar with a game. There are all kinds of tutorials out there, but there's a general difference between the tutorial that teaches you about the nuances of a game, and one that tells you what to do at every stage. One gives you the rules, encourages you to think creatively within their bounds, and leaves some questions unanswered. The other gives you the pattern to win.

I think a large number of MMO gamers today unabashedly prefer the latter. Show them what buttons to push, and in what order, and they'll be happy.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 2:57PM Boardwalker said

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Keep rockin' DAoC, keep rockin'.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 3:33PM NURBS said

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Good to see this. DAoC was the first mmo I played back in 2001-2002. Lots of grinding, but man was Realm vs. Realm great.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 3:56PM (Unverified) said

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Holy scrappy doo seeing screen shots of DAoC sure brings back memories. I can't believe its been 10 years since I first broke my MMO cherry while experiencing truly epic RvR play.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 4:11PM Pingles said

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Please go F2P on this one. Was my first MMO and I'd hop back in in a second.

Posted: Sep 16th 2011 4:54PM Bladerunner83 said

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@Pingles

If you already have the game, all you need is $15 dollars. Then you can "hop back in". It is so unbelievable cheap; I’m surprised you don’t just re-sub. No need to beg, if you plan to put money back into the game (just like paying for items in an item mall), then you’re doing the right thing by subscribing; otherwise your just looking to get something for nothing. If you paid $15 a month before, then you can do it again, it’s still the same badass game it was the day it was released.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 6:31PM Pingles said

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@Bladerunner83

I paid $15 a month when DAoC was state of the art and I hadn't seen all of the content.

I could have fun again in DAoC, to be sure, but to pay the same for that as SWTOR, Tera or Rift seems a bit of a stretch.

As an F2P I can guarantee I would use the cash shop (any game I enjoy I throw them a few bucks) but I'm not paying. Sub for it.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 7:45PM Bladerunner83 said

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@Pingles

Well then I guess that tough luck. The game is worth $15 a month, even at its current state. If you "can guarantee" you "would use the cash shop," then you can guarantee that you are going to spend money on the game. It makes no difference if it's before or after you play the game, and you have already played the game, when the game was in a lower state of progress. You obviously stated that your very interested in playing DAoC again, " I'd hop back in in a second." But your unwilling to pay a sub, because the game is not "state of the art", and you have "witnessed all of the content." That makes no sense. I guess that means it's time to get rid of your rent payment, cell phone bill, or anything that is prepaid, because it's not free the first time around, you've experienced what the service has to offer, and it's not worth paying for it until you've tried it.

Depending on which year your quit, you may have missed a slew of new content. By the tone of your second comment, I can assume that you would leave any current game you are playing, "for the next big thing." And we all know the next big thing was WoW in 2004. Additionally, DAoC was released in 2001, giving you 3 years to get bored with it, and move on. On top of that, New Frontiers was introduced in 2004, in which a large portion of the subscribers left to play other games, specifically WoW. I can safely assume you left before or shortly after 2004.
With that being said, since 2004 there have been numerous events in DAoC that are not in the game atm. There were month long storylines that introduce new content every week, but eventually expired and was removed to progress the game's storyline. I guarantee you were not a part of this, you're not even willing to re-sub.

Unfortunately, your mentality is what kills subscription games. If you truly loved the game, you would give credit where credit is due. And the sad part about all of this, is you would rather beg the company to spend their money changing the game to F2P, rather than pay $15 for a 30 day experience. A movie is more expensive, you have to pay $8-$14 just to sit down and watch it for 2 hours. Think about this, do you really think EA is willing to spend $50,000 (that's only one person's yearly earnings) on revamping the game with an item mall, which will take a few months to create and establish, for a player that isn't even willing to pay $15 dollars to build that option. How about you beg for things to change, while you contribute to the cause? If you don't like the changes then you can stop paying for the game, it's as simple as that; but remember, all those things that made you leave in the first place, will still be there when you come back.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 8:17PM Pingles said

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@Bladerunner83

Friend, I am not sure where the hostility is from.

I merely stated that for several years I gave Mythic my $15 every month. Eventually I even paid for two accounts when my friend lost his job. I was not married back then. I had a lot of free time. It was well worth the $15 for how much time I played.

Now I'm married. I have a 2 year old daughter. It's wonderful. I love it. But I have very little time for gaming. A subscription game does not make sense.

Free-to-Plays are great. I play a bit, give them money every once in a while. I never feel obligated to play. I can go weeks without playing but when I return my character is there, the money in the cash shop is ready for me to spend. It's a great business model and works well for me.

I am not ruining DAoC for not playing. I'm just not playing it.

Geez.

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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 8:48PM Faction 3 said

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@Pingles

Don't mind him, he has a habit of horrible reading comprehension and not reading comments properly.

Just look at the old "Beating the Lich King is like Winning the World Cup" discussion in "The Raid" movie thread...eeeesh!

Even I was at a loss for words....and I talk to myself constantly.
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Posted: Sep 16th 2011 10:37PM Bladerunner83 said

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@Faction 3

Think what you want to, you attack a fellow gamer and I voiced my opinion. Are you going to start stalking my post now?
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