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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 11:52AM Darkstryke said

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Only took two months to get run through the :awesome: filter.

The real fun begins next month.

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 12:25PM (Unverified) said

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I don't get it. Two months for 8 pages of nothing. Hell yeah CCP.

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 2:21PM pcgneurotic said

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I don't get it. Two months for 8 pages of nothing. Hell yeah CSM
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 12:37PM (Unverified) said

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Waiting to hear from the CSM on how heavily edited these minutes were.

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 5:49PM smg77 said

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According to White Tree they are the version that the CSM approved weeks ago with a couple changes that the CSM didn't think were controversial. Seems like CCP wasted a bunch of time and caused a bunch of drama for nothing.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 11:40PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) It's not that the minutes are not edited... per se. If you read between the lines on some of the topics you'll find that what is said does not correspond to the response.

In a few cases CCP has heavily altered their own statements to reflect just how awesome they think their game is, where the CSM insisted the minutes accurately reflect what they said.

It creates an interesting comedy... but it's not a very useful document.
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Posted: Sep 12th 2011 11:57AM Xilmar said

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@smg77

Maybe I don't remember correctly, but Mittens said on Funky Bacon that CCP's first draft was the usual stuff, but the second one (after CSM's first look through) had the disputed issues dialed down a lot. This was on Thursday or something, on eve radio.

Anyway it's obvious now that fail expansion is fail and fail vision is even more fail. So no one should be surprised that the PR folks are doing everything to keep this unknown to the news websites.

After the whole monoclegate thing, it would be even more horrible for CCP if rock paper, pcgamer and the like write how those concerns ended up being true.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 12:43PM USERNAME1212 said

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Im furious as an ex-eve player, yep sold my accounts for untold thousands.
Im so glad I did but that is not the point.
Minutes of a meeting are not "EFFING INTERPRETATIONS"

Those are not MINUTES of a meeting. MINUTES of a meeting are specifically what is said every second of said meeting. Not a god damn general synopsis by what Id bet is a CCP employee.

If we knew specifically what was said by CCP, im sure there would be outrage. I think its also shameful for Massively to go along with a "minutes" title when surely.... it is hardly that.

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 1:52PM fallwind said

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what you're thinking of is a transcript.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 2:22PM pcgneurotic said

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fallwind is correct. Minutes are a summary of the points discussed and conclusions reached.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 1:15PM Averice said

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related interview with eve dev person or w/e over at eurogamer

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 1:16PM Averice said

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@Averice er, chairman, not dev
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 1:24PM real65rcncom said

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EMERGENCY!

In a video game.

/kittenfacepalm

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 2:07PM Acharenus said

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@real65rcncom given how much real life money almost everything in eve can be translated to, it's pretty understandable.
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 5:25PM real65rcncom said

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@Acharenus understandable, but still /facepalm

just a game, like any other game
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Posted: Sep 10th 2011 7:55AM Calfis said

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Not like any other game, you be surprised how many people get mad in this game. Part of the fun is making them mad :)
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Posted: Sep 9th 2011 2:40PM Lamthara said

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wow.... :) going to read this minute and i'm sure i'll get a bit of fun for a few.

They should add this drama to the next trailer too :)

"we were jumping through the enemy territory when The Minute came out... oh men.. a lot of corp-mates logged off..... i was there"

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 3:09PM USERNAME1212 said

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Minutes my ass. More like filtered CCP lies as per usual.

When have they not lied? please. They cant even "NOT CHEAT" or give bias to their own alliances.

Funny how eve started out as the main squeeze....but next its going to be MAIN SQUEEZE FAIL DUST with eve as a secondary feature to the PS3 game. You can do the space thing on pc! welcome to the backseat people, as if you havent been there for years already.

they dont care about eve otherwise they would have stopped hacking or changed the ui or many many other things they have not given a shit about for years but they just roll out shitty "features" that break more than they claim they give the game.

Worthless devs. Cheaters at that.

Posted: Sep 9th 2011 3:21PM (Unverified) said

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the downfall of this game makes me quite sad. it's like watching someone you dearly loved get eaten by a cancer

Posted: Sep 10th 2011 11:17AM cogswick said

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But, you can survive cancer, and you can recover with the right treatments.

CCP needs to work on getting itself (and the CSM) an ego check and start buckling down to fix the issues rather than saying "We acknowledge you're upset."
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