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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 3:41PM pid said

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Ok. So I've seen this 1 hour video all through and my impression is... negative to say the least. There are so many alternatives I really don't see why someone should sink time (or worse, time AND money) in this game.
While Beau yawned... I yawned too all the time. I'm sorry but it was stronger than my will, I really had to yawn every 20 secs...

Posted: Sep 4th 2011 3:49PM Dril said

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I've been playing FoM *heavily* over the last two weeks and while I'm not an expert or a vet, I'm fairly competent at it (and I've already amassed a reasonable amount of XP and /played, they're not huge amounts compared to some of my ranking officers but it's still a fair bit.)

Let me say this right out of the bat: this is *not* a game where you can go in, expect to solo, and expect to do whatever the hell you want and look at the people ordering you around as teens living out their warfare dreams (hell, most of the people in my faction are 18+). In fact, doing that basically misses the entire point of the game. I daresay that immediately alienates most of Massively's audience already, but don't slag the game off because *you* want to play it as an accessible, "I pay my sub don't tell me what to do I'm just here to have fun" affair. It simply isn't built for that.

As you pointed out at the end: you need to be vocal, but *not* whiny. Persistence, competence and speaking up when necessary will get you moving in this game.

Now: where did you go in the game? If I'm not mistaken Eurocore were at war with VI/BoS last week (and losing pretty badly, too, but happily my faction were steamrolling VI/BOS in Manhattan today) so any of their worlds or, indeed, Brooklyn if LED weren't there would make you if not fair game then a likely target for a-holes who want to gank and use faction as an excuse. Also, some mercs may have been hired to gank all EC, but I'm not sure on that.

You also missed a really big point: combat in FoM is not easy. People from an FPS background will not immediately be able to pwn in this game, because you can't stand still, ever. You have to dance, move unpredictably, pop medkits, injectors etc all while trying to aim for the bloke on the other side. It is *hard*.

Another thing: people were probably being stern, angry commanders because a) it's a lot easier to get things done that way, and b) they probably deal with hapless new people and try and at least get them to be reasonably involved on a daily basis and that can wear on you.

To get the most out of FoM you need to group all the time. This normally doesn't mean dungeon-level coordination, reflexes and playing skill all the time, but more just simply working with your faction members and doing stuff for your faction in a coordinated way.

FoM is a really, really nice concept. You cannot imagine how much I wish the $50 million that went into Rift went into a proper, fleshed-out version of FoM instead. And while it's not a *superb* game, the idea alone is enough to entice me to pay for it until at the very least TOR comes out, and possibly beyond that. RP does happen, and in fact yesterday the player-run Senate met to ratify a new codex (i.e. ingame laws.) It's just that FoM struggles to be both an RPG and an FPS at the same time, and it needs to decide which and focus on it.

The newbie experience needs improving a LOT, and newbies need to speak up more.

Beau's right though. Push hard enough, and you can find absolute magic in this game that you won't find anywhere else. Let the PvP, FPS face get to you, though, and you're missing out on a really fantastic experience.

Final note: roll Law Enforcement Department or Freedom Defense Corps if you're a newbie. You may not get listened to straight away (since there's wars going on) but keep asking for help and announcing you're new in faction chat without being spammy or whiny about it and you'll at least see a glimpse of the game proper.

Posted: Sep 4th 2011 3:56PM Dril said

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@Dril

Also, I'll try and record some fights and patrols and that and put it on the Massively forums so anyone curious can see what's what when you're playing the real meat of the game.
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 4:03PM Beau Hindman said

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@Dril Yeh I wanted the article to read sort of like my experience. I was grumpy for most of the week, and on that last night I was like "Oh!" So, yeh, I need to get back in and put some good time in.

Thing is, I've played a lot of PvP/MMOFPS games so you would think that I would be used to this sort of thing, but I guess what has happened is that even *I* (lol) can get burned a bit on a certain genre. I have to remember my gamer Jedi training that helps me always keep a fresh mind each time I try a game.

I'll be poking back in later this week. Thanks for the comments!

Beau
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 7:30PM (Unverified) said

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@Dril
"People from an FPS background will not immediately be able to pwn in this game, because you can't stand still, ever. You have to dance, move unpredictably[...]"

I was going to object but then I remembered the horrible state the FPS genre is in today.
At least I'll always have Quake Live.
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 8:17PM Fabius Bile said

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because nothing spells "FPS skill" better than a bunch of bunny hopping rocket launcher tards...
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 8:46PM Faction 3 said

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@Fabius Bile

lol
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 4:25PM Pingles said

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My brief experience in this game was overwhelming. It was before this "tutorial" was in there so perhaps that helps.

When I played I was completely out of touch and walked into enemy territory. An enemy saw me and actually escorted me back to safety.

I had great interactions with players but learning the game was taking too long and I left. My loss, it seems.

Posted: Sep 4th 2011 5:30PM Faction 3 said

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I remember asking Dril about this game about a week ago, and I was REALLY interested in trying it out too. I think Im gonna g'head and give it a shot today.

As the wait for anything remotely decent from the big developers is brutal, been waiting on D3 (which was even said to be "Finished, except for some polish" by a Blizzard Dev 7 months ago) for over a year now, since the goddamn Monk reveal. I've taken to playing alot of the free to play games, and Beau has become my go-2-guy for which ones to try. Im currently playing Ragnarok & Eden Eternal...so yeah...

DRIL! If you can toss a few quick answers my way in the next couple hours: Is there a "populated" server in this game? Or is it all one big ass server? And how is the population overall? Beau said its pretty good.

Posted: Sep 5th 2011 12:01PM Dril said

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@Faction 3

Only one server (but they *apparently* have clusters in Europe and America so latency isn't a problem, theoretically.)

The game's population, in absolute terms, is probably lower than Vanguard's, but Beau's right in that it is "good."

Why? People concentrate in a few key areas, and everyone, from first-day newbs to vets will basically be in the same area, so the game seems to be if not thriving then at least alive when you're in those areas.

I'd imagine during American peak times it can get really busy (I go to sleep before then), but at the same time, the dead zone hits the game hard.

If you do play: join LED, FDC, CMG or GoM (Law Enforcement Department, Freedom Defense Corps, Colonisation and Mining Guild, or Guardians of Mankind) since they're factions that I've been told (or have experienced) are a) used to dealing with newbs and/or b) welcoming and friendly.

Send me a mail (Dril Spencer) if you do join up; I play LED.
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Posted: Sep 6th 2011 1:19AM Faction 3 said

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@Dril

Yessir! Thanks for the info, as usual!
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 5:35PM Kaoy said

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Hey Beau, I know you don't really take suggestions on what games to do next, but I think you should try out Crystal Saga. I have recently been playing it a bit, and it is very well polished, especially for a browser game. On top of that, it is very fun and highly addictive. Also, it seems like the sort of game that would be right up your ally, being the sort of cute, semi-social game with a lot more meat to it than it may appear at first glance.

PS - Blood Priests come with my highest recommendations.

Posted: Sep 4th 2011 5:43PM Beau Hindman said

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@Kaoy Yeh I will always take suggestions! They don't always work out, but I love em. lol I heard about Crystal Saga but last bit of news I had was that it was still in beta? I'll check...thanks!

Beau
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 8:36PM Kaoy said

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Yeah, its technically in 'beta', but as with many F2P games these days it's in full swing with a cash shop, active player base, and the full on blood fueds a PvP game inevitably has.
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Posted: Sep 4th 2011 5:49PM Hater said

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Is this a joke? This game one of the worst games around still. I have played this game of and on for years its probley at its worst these days, Not only do you lose 15% armor when you die wich makes you have to buy more all the time, But aimbots/hacks still around and dev team that's hosting game are same morons that helped destroy it in first place.

Posted: Sep 4th 2011 7:01PM real65rcncom said

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"The very first thing I heard from the EuroCore faction channel was "Get on Vent! Get geared up! Meet at X!" Now, I know that it is possible some of those players were "roleplaying" the role of the angry commander, but to be told what to do constantly as a newish player was a huge bummer. I didn't want to get on Vent, especially since I rarely use voice programs anymore except to do interviews with developers."

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I remember the first time I used a voice tool while playing a mmo years ago after having to type everything out in FFXI.

When I got on I was "this is pretty cool" where has this been all this time?!? For the next two years or so, my linkshell was yakking away and it really was cool to finally hear the people I had been playing with for years already.

When I quit FFXI and went to a few other games, I noticed right away was "ok, if you don't have Vent.. sorry." I had it so it didnt bother me but I saw ppl getting pissed about having to use it and I couldnt understand why.

Then I joined a guild in LOTRO and they had these kids.. these kids who not only had the most irritating chipmunk voices but were real jerks (first year college kids). I couldn't stand their swearing, poontang talk all day, and male member jokes. By the time I stopped playing it, I was pretty much almost sworn off Vent.

I use it now to hear when raiding in games, but I usually tell people the mic part is screwy sometimes so I can only hear. The times I meet the few adults I want to talk with about things other than internet memes, my mic "magically works" in a private channel.

Posted: Sep 5th 2011 12:36AM Jstaw said

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Hey, really glad you gave this game a second go. I've played FoM heavily since 2008, it is a problemed game but it can be fun if you make it so. No matter what faction you join people will tell you its the "bad" faction and there are always idiots who will screw with noobs even though the majority player base tries to help out new players so we can keep the game population up.

If you ever feel like spending more time in FoM be sure to hit me up in game (Mermer Shaw).

Posted: Sep 5th 2011 6:36AM Dread said

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I've always had a soft spot for this game and I remember helping run CMG back in the original beta way back when and even then it was 'ordinary'. I tired it again last year...or was it the year before....before it went 'Live' ....again. It was the cut down version of the game and it still was pretty ordinary.

Posted: Sep 5th 2011 2:26PM EyezRed said

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yea only thing i gotta say is EVE online dont have apartments...... Its all gonna be apart of station walking and they are just captain's quarters.....

Posted: Sep 5th 2011 4:15PM Beau Hindman said

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@SainT Arthurius Guys, I'm not concerned about what you think the dev team is accused of, so please keep any rumors of crimes or something else that we have no idea about to yourselves. Please, keep it to the discussion about the game.

On that note: new players should ALWAYS try any of the new games I present them with. After all, I rarely cover games that have to be paid for before even being able to log in, so if you don't try them you'll never know if you might like it.

While I appreciate anyone taking what I say and considering it in their decision...I never listened to anyone but myself. Try the game. Download it.

It's free. You might hate it....but you might not.

Beau

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