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Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 9:13PM (Unverified) said

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should we download this now so can log in day 1 or is the freebie client different from paid

Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 9:17PM Cristian Ceo said

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It will surely be the same. On that day maybe they will launch a patch with all the F2P content/store.

Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 9:24PM Thorium88 said

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So.... this F2P turns out to be another Champions-style freemium ploy?
They let you play a crappy version of the game in the hopes you'll cough up subscription money for the not-so-crappy version?

It's misdirection like this that gives f2p a bad name -- these things are not what I would call user-friendly business models.

I am currently liking the way that Turbine allows me to pay-as-I-go through LOTRO . . . the lack of a recurring subscription suits my irregular playing hours. I had been looking forward to a F2P Fallen Earth, but it certainly looks as if they designed the 'free' part to be a PITA.

I wish these companies would be honest about this and either let me support the game through the cash shop or just come out and say it's still a subscription game but with added unlimited trial version.

Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 9:42PM osamaelshimy said

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@Thorium88 well they give you all the content and most features for free, so this is definitely not a subscription game with added unlimited trial version.
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Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 10:42PM Omali said

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@Thorium88

LOTRO has you pay as you go through content blocks. In Fallen Earth you can play the entire game for free, you'll just get there a little slower than people paying a monthly fee.

"It's misdirection like this that gives f2p a bad name -- these things are not what I would call user-friendly business models"

No it isn't, it's exactly what the free to play advocates have asked for: 100% of the gameplay and 0 content blocked behind single purchase/subscription cash shops.

The only people who are going to be angry at this are the uber-cheapskates, who not only want the game for free but smash their keyboards in frustration that the company dare monetize any aspect of the game whatsoever, however small it is.
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Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 10:51PM Birk said

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@Omali

Honestly I can't even call folks like that "Uber-Cheapskates". Folks these days are so entitled...

Gripe about the state of the industry all you want, but Devs are putting out free content for you and I to play all the same. People that complain because it's not as free as they'd like it are just being completely unreasonable.

Oh, and that's off-topic by the way. No fingers being pointed here

-Birk
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Posted: Sep 2nd 2011 11:33PM real65rcncom said

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@Thorium88

agreed, turbine has the best model so far.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 3:41AM tororosso said

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@real65rcncom , Thorium88
I respectly and fully Disagree with both of you. By far LOTRO has the most limiting feature in comparison to recenly released Free 2 play games that was once under subscription model. LOTRO WAS the best but NOT anymore. U see LOTRO does not give allow players to finish to end game without GRINDING their life away for Turbine points. NEWer generation f2p gives this for free. PRIME example AoC. 2. LOTRO game features such as storage bags mount etc etc charges a player to invest inorder to be able to play to max or even mid level ... WHILE current f2p games these features are FREE or Not as limiting as LOTRO. I've played may free to play games and LOTRO was my fav back in FEB 2011 but now There's just SO MUCH BETTER games out there! LOTRO isnt top of list anymore.

FACT: LOTRO IS NOW THE MOST limiting F2p game for absolute free players compared to today's standards set by recently converted games.

I left LOTRO and havnt looked back since. To none LOTRO slaves, there's a world of free stuff out there. 5x less abusive to f2players ...try em out like this random list..
1. Fallen Earth
2. Age of Conan
3. City of Heroes
4. Champions Online
5. Star Treck Online soon
etc
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 4:17AM Kaoss said

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@Omali I agree, this is a decent f2p model, making all the content playable is good. Only thing that's not great is only having 1 character slot, usually 2+, but still not bad.
Also I believe the mailbox and Auction House is restricted, don't know if that means fully or if certain features of it can't be used unless you pay. Looking forward to this game though
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 8:02AM Thorium88 said

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@tororosso
You see, the difference here is that unlike you, I am not looking to play a game completely for free -- I'm perfectly willing to support the game with money, I just want to be able to do that without getting locked into a recurring subscription.

The 'free' games in your examples all (at least all that are live as of now) allow free players to engage in a nerfed version of the game. And yes, playing LOTRO for free also results in nerfed play... but LOTRO allows you to un-nerf your account through a few occasional payments in the cash shop, many of them non-recurring because they are account-wide, not character-specific. For the games on your list, the only un-nerfing possible is getting a subscription.

Therefore, I have to say that LOTRO is LESS restricting, at least for those of us willing to pay some dough.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 2:00PM tororosso said

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@Thorium88
Yeah i agree on some of your points but u did say: "yes, playing LOTRO for free also results in nerfed play... but LOTRO allows you to un-nerf your account through a few occasional payments in the cash shop" but isnt it better for someone to play out of the box with a little nerf as possible? in turn you could spend $ on more valued content instead of buying(unlocking/un-nefing) features that's already given to players out of the box in other f2p models.

I just love the way other game makers adopted f2p mode..(big fan of Age of Conan f2p business model) as it does not limit players to "grinding" for unlocking normal content.

i bought RoA and Moria. so did support turbine at one time btw
and still do.. its just competition f2p converts has pulled my attention in different directions. Nothing wrong with that i dont think...

GL to RtM expansion
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 1:38AM Ryn said

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LOL October 12 is my birthday!

Anyway, I think their F2P model is one of the more fair around to roll out with. All content free. Can't get better than that. If you like the game you should support it IMO. No harm in throwing a few bucks their way.

I do however question the $30 commander sub. Thats a ton to pay for a game a month, and I really don't see that much more benefit from it versus a regular sub.

Just my 2 Chips...

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 5:31AM Balraw said

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Been waiting for this information for a while and I think I will be playing this game again on the f2p model. As far as I can see is pretty fair model as far as these things go.

I have subbed to this game previously and really enjoyed my time in game and its community. Sadly money being what it is these days I can only really afford one subscription a month and that is currently taken by RIFT. Should a miracle ever happen and I get a pay rise I would seriously reconsider subbing at the Survivalist rate or should I ever get bored with RIFT this I think would become my subscription game at the Wastelander rate.

(Incidentally does anyone know if I could play my old characters under the F2P model or would I have to start over? I have moved my old account info over to Gamersfirst if that makes any difference)

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 7:34AM Ardwulf said

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Not being particularly familiar with Fallen Earth, how big a deal is the 8 hour per day crafting limit?

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 7:51AM real65rcncom said

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@Ardwulf
everything you make in the game is based on time.so if you want to make a Sooper Dooper machine gun, you have to make all the different parts and each part takes a certain amount of hours. the barrel takes this long, the stock takes this long, the bullets take this long, so on and so forth.

So you can guess how long it takes when your FtP goes up against someone who doesn't have any time limitiations on average for just about everything.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 8:07AM EpiccFaill said

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Trolls... are people who live under a bridge

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 8:50AM Ghostspeaker said

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So stoked about this! I can't wait to get back into this game.

I have to say, though, the Commander level just doesn't look like a very good value. I mean, for double the current sub cost you get a whopping 5% faster XP gain, gathering speed, and death toll regain, and 10% faster random AP gain and crafting speed compared to what you get for the current sub cost. And for teammates it'd only give a 5% boost across the board! Would anyone realistically even notice that size of a change? The only difference that seems substantial between it and the regular sub is the number of monthly reward points you get. Didn't get that far in the game (I only played the trial) so I don't know what all you can buy with those, but it still seems pretty overpriced for what you're getting.

I'll probably start as free and move up to the $15 sub once I get some more income. It seems to be the best value overall.

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 10:37PM gravy69 said

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@Ghostspeaker

your exactly right ghost, this is appalling for any co. in there right mind to instantly double the sub cost for a mere buff and lil real benefit gain on top of that.for that kind of money i better get a new mount every month and someone in there developing dep. better be leveling my toon. the commander should be 20$ tops and not a penny more.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 1:56PM (Unverified) said

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Dang, I was hoping when we got the sneak preview that the 'survivalist' level was like the DDO-style "If you ever spend any money, you get this". Kinda disappointing that you've either got to have a subscription or (nearly) nothing at all.

Posted: Sep 3rd 2011 3:21PM nbc said

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Gamers First is one of the crappiest services of the world: laggy server, bugs, super extended maintenances periods (without ETA), low quality GM's (wait, do they exist?), etc, etc, etc... . Makes sense a F2P Fallen Earth.

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