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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:09AM (Unverified) said

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I'm wary of the service and what EA will do with it. I'm hoping to have the patience to wait and see how SWTOR turns out and how people feel about using Origin to play it. If EA can create a respectable service then that's a good thing, more competition may result in better deals for the consumers.

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 9:55AM hereafter said

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I thought BioWare's reassurance that it wasn't needed to play meant that it was basically unattached to the service aside from perhaps buying digitally.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 10:40AM Paradigm68 said

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@hereafter Yes Origin will not be needed to play SWTOR. However that doesn't mean its true. Between now and launch it could change, or at any point after launch it could change (Ubisoft just got in trouble for promising everyone that an always-on internet connection would not be part of their new game (From Dust) then when the game launched, it was required.) The fact is that IF you have a problem with Origin service you have to keep that in mind for ANY EA game you buy because at any point they can change their minds.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 12:14PM ShivanSwordsman said

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This is why I don't use Origin. Just another reason EA has given me to not give them money. Me? I can do without Battlefield 3. Looks like a decent game, but hey. Tribes Ascent is on it's way, and there are tons of great games coming this fall and Winter. BF3 is just a drop in the bucket to me, and it not being on Steam has pretty much guaranteed I won't be buying it, since I get all my discounts there.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:14AM WrecklessMEDIC said

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It doesn't bother me personally. I never thought EA was out trying to "steal" my information. I signed up for Origin to get the digital download of SWTOR out of convenience and it worked great. They're just trying to have a little more control in how people can access their games. It's the same thing as Blizzard's Battle.net service in my opinion and I've never had a problem with them either. :)

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 10:26AM MMOaddict said

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I agree with Wreckless. It doesn't even phase me or register in my mind as anything other than the "window" to playing SWTOR. I just want to play the game.

SOE uses a launcher to play and patch their games, so...I don't see what the big deal is. Matter of fact, all MMOs use a small variation of this, in some way or another with their own launchers. Origin is just a bit more refined and sophisticated and will act more like Steam.

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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 5:04PM JoeH42 said

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@MMOaddict Ditto.
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Posted: Aug 29th 2011 5:02PM Icemasta said

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Hm, the point about the EULA, which is what this post is all about, is that you agreed to have EA install spywares on your machine and upload non-personal to personal information. You also gave them the right to EA to sell that information to any third-party they wished. This includes things like every file on your computer (including songs,movies, etc... that they could report to the RIAA for instance, since you're giving them the right to do whatever they please with all the information about your system.

Basically, it stripped you of any form of privacy you can have on your system to EA. That was the problem.

Was EA did was alter the EULA to a more lawyer speak which means the same thing except more complicated. The reason why I am not touching Origin with a 10 foot pole.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:25AM Unverfied B said

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I don't dig Origin, or Steam or any other service of that kind. Too much pointless DRM (more so if it's an MMO) and potential for abuse.

It's a non-issue for me though as long as i have other options, and it was confirmed for SW:TOR that it would be playable (and update-able) without having the Origin client installed whether the game was purchased from there or not.

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:40AM Deadalon said

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I think we will see more and more gamers ignore the big blocks of gaming (EA - Activision/Blizzard) and go for more Indy style of gaming - including downloadable content from Steam and related sites. Why ? Because the big ones are no longer in it for the games. They are there for buisness and buisness alone. "How can we get as much money as possible?" is their only thinking. Not saying that the games are bad - but they are only games - and other companies can make good content. And with good support from the gaming comunity we will see even more.

I have had my Battlenet account deleted - both 5 years of WOW and Starcraft along with it. I have also desided to ignore ALL EA games based on the fact that their "origin" service is limited to certain countries when it comes to games like SWTOR. Thats just unacceptable.

So - Will I miss out of something ? Not really. THere are plenty of good games that I can still enjoy in my spare time. And who knows... It might even get me from the computer now and again :D

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 11:29AM rhorle said

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@Deadalon

Battle.net is nothing like origins or steam. Even comparing the two different digital distribution platforms is stupid. Deleting your Battle.net account is like physically destroying your game disc. Just stupid and a waste of money if you ever want to play the game again in a few months.
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Posted: Aug 29th 2011 10:19AM Deadalon said

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@rhorle

Considering that Battlenet accounts will be dealing with real money trade from Diablo 3 - we will see huge changes in terms of EULA and even change in age restriction. Lets face it... 12 year old kids are not allowed to "play" with real money.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:44AM (Unverified) said

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The good thing is that the developers did come out and say that Origin won't be required to play SWTOR.

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 8:47AM chauncy said

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I honestly couldn't care less about Origin or Steam or Impulse or any of these services. They're just there and I use them to play the games that I want to play. It's that simple. All of this EULA and spyware talk is probably great if you're into it, but I'm not. I just like to play.

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 6:12PM Fakeassname said

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@chauncy

it's all just attention mining: over the last two to three weeks every single news site has run an inflammatory "upset about Origin" article ... at least twice.

the damn thing has been out since June and most of these points were discussed and put to rest by the general gaming community within two weeks of it's launch.

news gets slow this time of year so troll articles to nerd bait readers always pop up, but this whole Origin thing is getting out of hand and I really wish everyone would give it a rest.
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Posted: Aug 29th 2011 5:08PM Icemasta said

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Then I sure hope you have no illegally downloaded files, ranging from songs to softwares, because with the EULA you signed ,you agreed to have all the information about your system, hardware and software wise, to be gathered and sold/shared to any third-party EA wishes.

How long do you think it will take for the RIAA to come knocking at EA's door with a big bag of money in exchange for the information of thousands if not millions of 18-30 people who "don't care about them EULAs" for a nice cash grab?

It's pretty sad when people sign their rights away for entertainment.
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Posted: Aug 28th 2011 9:11AM Dumac said

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It doesn't sound much less sinister to me. What would make me happy is an opt-out (or better yet opt-in) option for "improving their services". A lot of software that collects information have this option.

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 9:36AM Konataismine said

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Given as I honestly don't care about SWTOR, (Its a good game, but Its not for me.) this only affects meh Battlefield 3 ^^ Grats to all you SWTORers though!

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 9:48AM (Unverified) said

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I hate my battenet account with a passion. I no longer play WoW but still need it for SC2. The bitch of it is, I need to log in my SC2 with my authenticator because they will not delete my WoW accounts, therefore I am still a target for hackers, thus needing my authenticator still. I asked if I could separate my SC2 account from my frozen WoW accounts they begin attacking me with accusation of wanted to sell my WoW accounts. > Middle Finger ^ @ Blizzard <

I am happy that SW:TOR will not be using a blizzard like service. Just let me log in & play without all the BS please :D

Posted: Aug 28th 2011 11:27AM rhorle said

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Bioware and TOR will be using a service exactly like Battle.net. There will be a TOR/Bioware level account that you register the game license too. There is also a good chance they will integrate it into social.bioware.com.

Also hackers can't tell you have WoW accounts attached to your battle.net, so your account won't be any less of a target if you had no wow accounts attached. You could still be hacked, they just wouldn't have much to do except get you banned from SC2.

Besides if you don't play WoW (your accounts are frozen), just remove the authenticator. It is simple as that.
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