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Posted: Aug 15th 2011 9:15PM augustgrace said

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Yoshida should have been in on this game from day one. This guy was given the impossible job of turning around a game that had already flopped, but it turns out he may be a bit of a miracle worker.

If SE is willing to continue backing this guy and then do a "relaunch", I think this game might actually turn around.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:01PM Eamil said

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Seriously. Dude deserves a raise. I don't care how much he's making right now, he deserves more.

I'm not holding out because the changes don't interest me, I'm holding out because I want to experience as many of them at once as I can rather than play a character to level cap and have to wait for patches to trickle out to make things even better.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 12:04AM (Unverified) said

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@Eamil

I still think it's just going to be another Vanguard (already is), which is too bad, because I'd like to see the game do well. But we've seen it all before..
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 5:14AM deejrandom said

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@(Unverified) It really isn't another Vanguard. I can see why you say that - big expected game failing on launch - but there are many different things. Sony never put in the time, effort, personal and changes needed to make Vanguard successful after the fact. They bought the game, launched it, and now it is what it is. Square Enix, on the other hand, actually fired the head guy and much of the original design team and put someone else in place. The game is changing in to what it should've been in the first place. I think that even if FFXIV isn't one of the biggest MMOs on the market, it'll end up having a large loyal fanbase. Like FFXI before it, the FFXIV setting is great - I never cared for the Vanguard setting.

I guess we'll see how it all comes out in the end.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 3:37PM ChongShin said

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@deejrandom I agree. Consider that I bought Vanguard's collector edition at the game's release. I still have that sweet box and all of its contents tucked away in my PC desk.

Sony would never put the money, time, and effort into VG to turn it into what it should be, and that fact greatly disappoints me. They have no Yoshida, no such spirit, and no respect for the subscriber base or the product's potential. XIV may never recover, but at least they're making the effort and Yoshida, if not SE specifically, is earning some respect. That's more than SOE will ever be able to say.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2011 9:19PM chum said

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1.19 looks huge! I can't wait.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 10:29PM Eamil said

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WOO AIRSHIPS!

Hiking one of my lowbies from Gridania to Limsa Lominsa was not fun.

(Also airships are awesome.)

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 10:46PM Eamil said

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Dang. Finished reading the whole list and they're really going all-out with this one. I think after 1.19 or 1.20 I'll finally give the game another chance.

I say 1.20 because of the class skill redistribution they're doing with that patch. I'm debating whether to wait for that or not.
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Posted: Aug 15th 2011 10:52PM Tizmah said

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The changes are great. However, Can't say I'll be playing until we see the full relaunch. I'd hate to experience all the changes in the middle of playing the game.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:03PM Eamil said

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An in-depth system like that could be interesting but I don't think the fact they're adding one type of personal chocobo now rules out a breeding system further down the road. They added one to FF11 years after it came out.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:05PM Mevan said

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They had it in FFXI and it was terrible. Players cared about it for maybe a month before realizing how bad it was. They've already said that Chocobo breeding will be in the far future. I'd be up for chocobo racing again if we were given control of the mounts during the race... but since everyone would think they're in first place because of server lag I don't think it would be possible.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:10PM Mevan said

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It should be considerably better than XI's breading system since you'll be able to straight up trade or sell the chocobo you've bread. This will be great for players that have the time to dedicate to such things as breading because they'll be able able to make some good gil out of it. And it'll be great for the player who isn't able to plop down for hours to play because they'll just be able to buy their chocobo.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:29PM Pewpdaddy said

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All my friends got pissed when they pulled Yoshida from XI. Looks like maybe Squeenix might be able to right this sinking ship. I'm not sold yet, but it's moving in the right direction, good job on Yoshida's end at least. As far as him needing a raise, I wouldn't doubt given the overall opinion of gamers of this game since he took the helm that he has already been given at least one.

Posted: Aug 15th 2011 11:36PM Graill440 said

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Its like a porta potti thats messed up and was never cleaned. The new guy doing the cleaning has the porta potti looking pretty good and people tip him well because of his work....but, the stigma of all the cr@p....that happened in the last porta potti is still there, and the smell is next to impossible to get rid of, no matter how good a cleaner you are. (Evil grin)

Posted: Aug 16th 2011 12:53AM (Unverified) said

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@Graill440

this is actually true for FFXIV, the flaws are deep in the way it was designed and most of the fixes they're doing are just polishing the already flawed systems.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 12:57AM (Unverified) said

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Is this the one that covers classes and jobs? I heard paladin said alot in producer letters. I was curious of a 2h sword class.

Posted: Aug 16th 2011 1:17AM chum said

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I believe that 1.20 will finalize all the battle changes for current classes and advanced/new jobs will come after 1.20 so it's probably at least a few months away. Hopefully we get some details soon.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 1:36AM Bramen said

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I had pre-ordered this game. Got into the open beta and canceled. On one hand I would like to see this game do well because SquareSoft was my favorite gaming company when I was a kid. But on the other hand, I can't fathom releasing a FF game without chocobos. This game was released in such a terrible state that any company that felt that was ready should really get an over haul. The hubris of Square-Enix with regards to the FF franchise is a huge turn off. The game was STUNNINGLY bad. That fact reflects so poorly on Square-Enix that I'm almost afraid to try other games from them now.

I know I give Eliot a hard time when it comes to FFXIV. I can appreciate his stick-to-it-ness and even share in his hopes that FFXIV can improve. However, I sometimes feel he may be a bit disingenuous when it comes to how he truly feels about the game. I find it hard to believe that such a well played gamer could find such an unfinished game worth playing. Sometimes I feel that perhaps he is telling himself he enjoys the game, because he has to write articles about it; so he overstates his enjoyment of the game until he believes it. Honestly, I'm glad he does it though. Someone has to keep us posted on the state of the game so we all don't have to keep reactivating our accounts just to taste that bitter taste of disappointment all over again. Good on you Mr. Lefebvre!

Posted: Aug 16th 2011 1:48AM (Unverified) said

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@Bramen

I hear ya, and definely agree. I wanted this game so badly, and it was just plain insulting. I've been following it's redevelopment, and I will say I'm impressed with Yoshida. His team launch mass patches on a monthly bases, this really hasn't been seen before in the MMO world. He seems to have a great structure of communcation, and knowing the players wants. My only concern is this, can you remake this game on it's wreck chasis; the world structure isn't the best for one example, questing? An is the reason for any effort solely to sell the PS3 verision?

Unsure... all I do know unless we demand quality and it hits them the wallets, they won't learn.
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Posted: Aug 16th 2011 3:23AM Bramen said

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You are right on about hitting them in their wallets! I hate to say it because part of me wants the game to do well. But there is a vengeful part of me that is a little insulted that they tried to sell me such an incomplete game that it boarded on fraud. Because of that, part of me hopes that the game goes ahead and dies, and hits them hard in the wallet. Also because if the game ultimately fails it is better for it to die quickly and be forgotten, rather than to die slowly without dignity.

This is a very strange feeling to have for a Final Fantasy game, considering my love for the franchise.
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