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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 1:32PM Space Cobra said

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@Irem

That's probably a good point, even though I am pointing out, this "ain't the newest thing under the sun".

But heck, I was drawn to such creativity of the works they are possibly based on and thought about it myself. I am glad they are being re-used for a new audience.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 6:34PM Valdamar said

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@Utakata
"I think the qustion is being asked: "What MMO can you roll a plant as a player character?" Thus ArenaNet may have some validity to their bragging rights. :)"

Or not - Dark Age of Camelot had the Sylvan playable race last decade:

http://camelotherald.wikia.com/wiki/Sylvan
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 10:09PM Synthetic said

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@Irem

It does seem like a backlash from her at the community's glib look at Sylvari. But I still contend they're nothing unique, though that doesn't detract from their appeal to me at all.

I'd like to see some character creation videos on them soon as well as some combat footage.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 11:03PM Utakata said

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@Valdamar

From the link you have provided:

"The Sylvans are Dryad-type creatures that have a faint resemblance to the trees in which they inhabit. Sylvan are part of the natural fabric of HyBrasil in much the same way as the wolves and badgers that inhabit that wooded land of Hibernia. They have allied with the races of Hibernia to combat the threat of the Fomorians, who are ever-encroaching on HyBrasil.

Sylvans are humanoid, with bark-like skin and long, slender appendages. They have leaf-like hair that is colored in appropriately leafy colors: red, green, yellow, and orange."

...this doesn't really tell me much. So where these humanoids mimicking trees? And where they a playable race? These are both important destinctions...since the Sylvari are plants mimicking hamanoids. And are also playable.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 12:56PM tavtav said

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I certainly hope they take extra damage from fire.

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 1:04PM Dumac said

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Wonder can we dye the "clothes", hmm. Some of them (the "clothes") don't look that impressive in motion as they do on a screenshot. But i still love them (the sylvari). :)

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 1:25PM Zyrusticae said

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Y'know, this is probably completely ridiculous and limited exclusively to myself, but the thought of playing as a race that reproduces in a very, VERY non-animal manner seriously turns me off, despite how remarkably attractive they actually look on the surface. There really is absolutely nothing sensual about plant reproduction, is there?

Although I get the impression that this won't get in the way of fan artists and writers... Nothing ever really does.

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 2:07PM Apakal said

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@Zyrusticae

Sure there is. Plants, particularly flowers, are exceedingly sensual. Just think about all the emotions we augment with the use of flowers; love, empathy, grief, desire, passion, forgiveness, friendship...

Aside from that, when you think of shapes and silhouettes that we consider "sexy" or sensual, many of those shapes originate or are replicated in plants. Look at Orchids or even the soft, subtle curves of a rose petal.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:09PM Irem said

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@Zyrusticae
They may reproduce solely through the Pale Tree, but they aren't asexual and are apparently entirely capable of engaging in more mammalian reproductive acts regardless. ;)
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:27PM (Unverified) said

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@Zyrusticae In Victorian times, it was considered very inappropriate for women to cultivate orchids, on the basis that that type of flower was inappropriately sensual; sSort of like vegetable-based double entendres, if you will.

I really like the philosophy and design of the Sylvari overall, I love how GW2 is being creative with their races and not doing the same-old tired Elf/Dwarf/Halfling thing. It's nice to see something different and well-designed!
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:53PM Jeromai said

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@Zyrusticae

Knowing how promiscuous real life flowering plants are, and the myriad ways they can reproduce - male and female parts in the same flower on the same plant, male flowers on one plant and female on another, via a third party pollinator, self-fertilization, asexual reproduction...

..I think fan fiction writers would be having a field day ignoring anything resembling lore. :)
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 1:46PM ArcherAvatar said

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"Plants that give the *illusion* of being human." - Kristen Perry

I think that quote sums up exactly what I like so much about the sylvari redesign. ANet needed to take an extra step to differentiate the sylvari from your typical MMO elves, and in my opinion that step has been taken.

I see a lot of Nits being picked in the comments here, and that's fine, that's standard operating proceedure on the interwebs but, the fact remains; no matter how well read you are, or the breadth and depth of your sci-fi/fantasy experience, you have never seen a plant race like this in an MMO before. They are, in fact, new...

That bit of silliness aside, I enjoyed the aesthetics of the "sneak peek" we got in the video of some sylvari "looking" areas, and I especially like the "winter" looking sylvari character models that were shown. So far this week has been an absolute pleasure and a relief... I was very intrigued by the lore of this race before, and wanted to investigate further in-game but, was uncertain if I wanted to play an "anime elf." Those worries are long gone now. Sylvari will be the race of the first character I create, and will likely make up the majority of all characters I create in GW2 (leaving open just a "tiny" window for the possibility of a few more asura depending on how their race week goes...)

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 2:57PM TheMustacheHero said

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Well, I've never seen anything like the sylvari.

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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Some oft he male Sylvari designs and their "beards", quickly reminded me of this http://kinoenlightenment.blogg.se/images/2011/vegetable_gremlin_4_135533257.jpg.


I cannot really say that I am blown away by the designs, they still feel like green elf people covered in plant parts, to me.

And yes, I have seen races like these many, many times before.

Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:13PM Tanek said

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"And yes, I have seen races like these many, many times before."

If you have some examples, I'd love to look them up. I have not seen much like these before, although I do tend to go with the "there's nothing new under the sun" idea. :) Thanks!
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:21PM alucard3000 said

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@Tanek well there are Ent's from Tolkien
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ent
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:27PM Tanek said

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@alucard3000

Ah, ok. Things like that I have seen. I was more going for (and I know this is a bug, not plant, but it was what the sylvari made me think of) the critters from the movie 'Mimic'. Where one creature shapes itself into the illusion of another. But I do see the ent similarities, especially in the winter looks.
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:44PM (Unverified) said

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@Tanek

How about DAoC's Sylvans ( yes, Arenanet was totally origional with their sylvari) http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/daoc-si/ss-02.jpg

Plant people, made of leafs and bark and whatnot, born from one single tree, having all the same dream.

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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 3:54PM alucard3000 said

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@(Unverified) "Imitation is the sincerest (form) of flattery"-Charles Caleb Colton http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Caleb_Colton
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Posted: Aug 10th 2011 4:21PM j1083 said

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@(Unverified) In that case I'd assert there's a prominent difference in that sylvari are alien yet still extremely pretty, whereas that pic of a "sylvan" looks ugly as hell. ;)
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