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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 2:37PM Faction 3 said

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Beau for President!!

Posted: Aug 7th 2011 10:42PM ployer said

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@Faction 3

He is probably more qualified than our current President. He gets my vote.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 2:40PM Pingles said

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I have enjoyed my time back in the game and am pleased by the developer presence both in-game and on the forums.

I do have concerns.

The quests have dry spells. Currently I am on a break because I got tired of doing the bounty quests (repeatable) with the same mobs over and over.
I am still half a level away from (hopefully) opening a few new quests.

While the game launches from a browser it starts it's own window and the loading times are a bit atrocious. For a game that is perhaps a generation or two behind graphically it is quite a wait to play each time.

It requires a Facebook account to log in. I don't like having games tied to my name like that. I'm not sure why they need that. And we've seen in the past that Facebook apps can occasionally get squirrely. I had a friend who had no idea that an app had been nagging everyone to read their e-cards, etc. Can I just skip the Facebook stuff?

They are in "Open Beta" but have announced that there will be a character wipe.

Looking forward to creating a character I get to keep.

Posted: Aug 7th 2011 2:56PM Faction 3 said

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@Pingles

I actually read on the forums that the Facebook application has 0 link to your Account, its just used to authenticate who you are. So there won't be any "So&So has gained a Leather Jacket in EE" posted on your wall, or whatever the hell its called.

Seeing as how I think FB is a Teenage-Girl hobby (In mature words...), I'll never have one, and probably never play EE due to that restriction.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 3:21PM Space Cobra said

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@Faction 3

I agree with you. I don't like Facebook.

What I've done is just make up a name, put in some so-so info, tie it to another email account (spam account) set the privacy options all to high and don't bother to use it except for certain games that require it.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 3:26PM Space Cobra said

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I remember playing this game lightly, but I personally didn't run into many folks; it probably was due to me signing on at a late hour (and the fact the game was not well known).

While I don't like Facebook, I think this new partnership may help them more than hurt. Hope to try it soon. One of my small peeves from the last iteration of the game was that while races were different, they were not "as different"; basically just a different head on the same body, if I remember. Not even an option for "big/fat" bodies versus "skinny" ones.

Still, glad this game is back. It is needed!

Posted: Aug 7th 2011 3:48PM Pingles said

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@Space Cobra

One thing that should be noted about this game is that it has the most peculiarly wonderful community. Both in the previous version and this it is quite possibly the most well-behaved and mature group of MMOers I have ever run into.

It reminds me of the adult testers in the Beta of Free Realms. I stayed playing that game long after the content ran dry mainly because of those crazy people.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 5:35PM Muskie said

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@Pingles indeed. I absolutely LOVED Free Realms when it was in beta. then it went live and the chat filter went in. my god. you can't even type numbers. you can't even SPELL OUT NUMBERS. no, seriously. "I'm Level Ten" is censored..

but that's something i'll elaborate on in the next comment in the next post beau does.

Regarding EE 2.0, I'm very much liking the small, tightly knit community. this is still a game for the fans, which I love.

Regarding the lack of the previous version's races, Piggypops has pretty much confirmed that They're doing an EQ2X in that regard and allowing you to permanently purchase a race unlock for your account. (and even unlock some with quests!).
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 10:28PM Space Cobra said

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@Muskie

"you can't even type numbers. you can't even SPELL OUT NUMBERS. no, seriously. "I'm Level Ten" is censored.."

Players have found a way around this already. Most just misspell numbers (like "Fiv" instead of "Five"; that example may be slightly off, since it's been awhile since I chatted in Free Realms).

I, myself, found that I can count in Spanish. (Uno, Dos, Tres...) or some other language, that also seems to work. (And I know, silly work-around to "protect the children"!)
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 11:06PM Pingles said

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@Space Cobra

Like the second day Free Realms went live some kid posted his phone number in global chat.

As stupid as that might be, he was probably a little kid and his parents felt safe that he was playing a "kid" game.

It did kill chat but I can't blame them for doing it.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 11:16PM Beau Hindman said

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@Pingles In talking to the devs from Wizard 101 several times, I can assure you that taking away the ability to put numbers and other info into chat is completely for the safety of the kids.

Kingsisle (makers of Wiz) are constantly adding to the filter and fighting against kids who find ways around it. For example, using "bish" instead of the B word. Kids are some of the toughest customers, and can be mean enough to make a hardcore PvP server look like Disneyland.

At the same time, you have to wonder why other games do not do it. While there are "ratings" on games, the ratings mean nothing. No parent will face trouble if they allow their kid to hang out with grown ups in a game. Or, you have to wonder why Kingsisle worries so much about it, when so many of the kids playing their have parents who have no idea (nor care) what the heck their kids are doing on the PC.

It's a weird deal. I personally would never want to make a "kids game" because it would be such an incredibly fickle and tough audience.

Thanks for the comments, guys!

Beau
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Posted: Aug 7th 2011 5:40PM MtthwRddl said

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I'm sure I can just google it, but why the heck is there not a link to the Earth Eternal web site? I find it irritating that the links that have the game's name often lead to lists of articles based on the game and not the web site for the actual game.

Posted: Aug 8th 2011 3:26AM pcgneurotic said

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@MtthwRddl

Yah, me too. I think I read somewhere here in the past that it's some kind of technical requirement to do with the archiving of the posts. Anyway, I'm off to check out this new EE. I'm curious about who rezzed it... (and yes, I'll be missing my bear warrior too... )
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Posted: Aug 8th 2011 1:11PM greywolf said

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@MtthwRddl

yeah. this drives me completely crazy, too.

when i click on the link of the game, i expect to...go to the link of the game. isn't that how html is supposed to work?!
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Posted: Aug 8th 2011 12:19AM DevilSei said

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Honestly, the only thing keeping me from trying this game out is the whole facebook thing and the models. The first is easily fixed (I have a junk Facebook account I use for some games).

But looking around on their site, I see nothing that shows off a list of races available, or what they look like. Clicking around in the forums I found one thread, but it sounds like the general consensus is negative on the newer models. And I'll admit, seeing the old wooden-faced race turning into some unappealing blockhead on a body, just didn't exactly strike a positive cord with me. A few other races also seemed to take an unappealing turn graphically. So I'm wondering how the rest look, do they all suffer from that?

Posted: Aug 8th 2011 3:32AM MtthwRddl said

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@DevilSei You should try the game for yourself.
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Posted: Aug 8th 2011 3:34AM pcgneurotic said

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For the record, your Facebook apps can very, very easily be configured. I have a Facebook account, I've had it for years and I love it. I've never had a problem with security on it and signing in to EE just now was easier than falling off a bicycle. The FB/EE login is also standard proceedure, with EE asking for permission to do only the usual things that all apps ask to do. Again - stupidly easily configured from within FB to be as discreet as you wish.

Posted: Aug 8th 2011 9:11AM illansesher said

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Loving that this game is back. Sad my old guys are gone but that's ok. I do wish all of the races were there, but I guess that will come. Even convinced the wife to come try it tonight, when she flat out refused to first time around. HA! I win button there. Pretty sure it has to do with me being unwilling to re-sub to WoW to play with her.

Welcome back EE.

Posted: Aug 8th 2011 1:19PM greywolf said

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thankyou, beau.

i really appreciate that this game got a chance at a second life - so few games are shelved for good and then never bought back - it's a rare treat to see a fan-favourite like this one bought back from the brink.

and i am very glad you spent some time exploring it again and making your views public.

i am, however, not likely to go back to the game for a handful of simple reasons:

primarily, the facebook issue is a thorny one for me. while, yes, you can set it to private, the fact that it is facebook and that facebook is "the in thing" now is frustrating. what are the new owners going to do when facebook is no longer the "in thing?"

second to this, i'm not really happy with the new models. yeah, i realize that the new owners are shooting for a broader audience, but the whole thing just looks too much like the models are very young, very japanese kid-type animals.

along with this, i'm with your wife. i want my bear back, too. i get that they want to make money - and i get that selling races is one way to do it, but this simply kills one of the parts that was good about this game: the customization. the fact that it had twenty two races that weren't gated right out the door probably sold it to many.

ah well. i do wish them much luck. my comments aside, here, i am completely happy they bought the game back.

Posted: Aug 8th 2011 6:31PM Pingles said

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@greywolf

I would bet you anything that the ONLY reason this game is back is because of it's Facebook tie-in.

Trying to get funding for a new F2P? Good luck.
Trying to get funding for a Facebook game? Investors are probably taking a number.
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