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Posted: Jul 21st 2011 10:09PM Unshra said

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"And when that happens? There is cake"

And the first thing that came to mind was "Cake or Death?"

Posted: Jul 21st 2011 10:22PM SpeedLazer said

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So much for going a day without thinking of Portal...

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 12:10AM Borick said

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If we weren't having fun skirting the rules before, the third reminder in as many weeks should solidify it.

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 3:13AM (Unverified) said

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I find it funny that these reminders come up every time there's an extra bit of FF XIV news other than the usual column every week.

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 5:20AM Utakata said

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@(Unverified)

I'm not sure about your claim...but I am disturbed this keeps getting brought up.

First: I will point out I haven't really seen the comments here getting to a point where these warmings are warrented. Discussion is still healthy. And getting one or two trolls...well is on par for the course. And in comparison to WoW Insider, Massiviley is an intellectual renaissance...so I am not sure what the issue is.

Furthermore, When I see these warnings issued from any source..it's usually been a step up of what constitutes flaming and trolling for example. Where comments who simply disagree with the writers starts getting the banhammer smack down. I sincerely hope this isn't the case here with Massively. They really have it good here.

So my question to Massively is what's up with this?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 7:03AM Tanek said

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@Utakata I don't think it is a case where they are changing trolling to mean anything that disagrees with the writers. I think it more likely that, to paraphrase something said in the forums, not seeing the worst cases means someone is doing their job.

It had been noted before that those cases (personal attacks and profanity would probably fit in there) would be removed and could result in a person being banned If you or I have not seen anything like this happening, it is probably a good sign that neither of us run afoul of any rules.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 7:08AM Dril said

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@Utakata

"First: I will point out I haven't really seen the comments here getting to a point where these warmings are warrented."

They mostly get deleted before you can see them :P
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 8:17AM Utakata said

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@Tanek & Dril

The moderators doing their job had crossed my mind when I was writing this. Perhaps you two are unto something regarding that. Thus I can't claim in that respect there hadn't been any issues. But I don't honestly know.

And you maybe right also Tanek, but it still concern me how things may get misinterpretted...

...take for instance, there was an incident a while back where I strongly disagreed Trion's announcement of their new authentication mechanics using 3rd party mobile technology. Granted I was admittedly somewhat knee jerked about it and could of phrased it better. But many acccused me of trolling/flame baiting. Yet for right or wrong, I sincerely had issues with it. And it was not my intention to disrupt the commentary by posting my displeasure about it. Would something like this be up on the chopping block now?

Because it is difficult to distinguish the context in which I am posting something in a forum where nobody has met me or knows who I really am. How can they honestly say they know I am not trolling or flame baiting? So this does concern me that I might get caught up in a moderated dragnet ...especially when I am likely raise a spirited disagreement over something again. :(
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 9:07AM ShawnSchuster said

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@Utakata Yep! Like others have said, if you don't see the worst comments, it means we're doing our jobs effectively.

Also, I only review comments when they've been reported. So if they don't offend anyone, I don't see them. On the other hand, some people like to report every single comment that disagrees with their point, and I ignore those. Speaking your mind (even negatively) against a game isn't breaking our rules, but calling other Massively readers names is. That's usually where we draw the line.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 5:00PM Utakata said

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@ShawnSchuster

Thanks for explaining that. That does make me at a bit more ease over the matter....since you have confirmed a few of things for me. That is, you guys are infact effectively cleaning up the trolling, will only act if the reporting warrents it and I haven't been one of those who have warrented such a clean-up in the past....since I am still posting here. :)

And oh dear...with the risk of sounding ad hominem myself, are they really those with no life repeatedly spam the report button on every comment they don't like? Perhaps they should get their finger out and debate what they disagree with, instead of wasting you guys' time. And sorry to hear that. :(
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 3:25AM Graill440 said

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The cake is a lie.


(awe, c'mon, someone would have typed it....Grin)

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 1:02PM winterborn said

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I dont believe poseters should bash other posters but if there are forum Nazi's that prevent opinions good and bad even bashing of games, then what is the point of this site?

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 3:17PM Draq said

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@winterborn all these sites are this way, MMORPG.com is even worse
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 6:59PM winterborn said

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I know most official forums have paid mods that do damage control. But this is a general MMO site that should not favor or protect any one game.
Again talking smack to other posters due to thier views on the topic is delete worthy. Although one should be able to point out issues or flaws or post personal opinions about games etc.

Posted: Jul 22nd 2011 10:43PM ShawnSchuster said

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@winterborn I'll say it again and again (as I said only a few posts above yours...), we don't delete comments for negative opinions on games. We delete comments when people call our readers or our staff names. If we deleted comments that showed favoritism towards any one game over another, we'd have no comments. We're not here to promote any games, we're here to make sure intelligent conversation is made about those games, without fear of being called names.
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