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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 1:20PM PhelimReagh said

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You can do that by rolling an alt. Why subject everyone else to a wipe when you have that option to fill that need?
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 8:53AM Azaetos said

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A wipe for those that played the game without macroing their character to have maxed out stats, those people I would feel sorry for.

But the tears from the macroing epeeners, now they would be glorious!

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:07AM Luxxicon said

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Was anything ever done to the early "acid sitters" who got max stamina from AFK'ing in the acid pools? I played early on, but when I was getting hit for 3x the dmg I was hitting them with, despite wearing my best armor and weapons I just gave up. Wiping all the toons to get rid of the large number of early issues might make me try again...

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:09AM Bladerunner83 said

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" Would you keep playing if your progress was reset? "

I would have to say no. We as MMO players spend our personal time, and for some it's the only free time we have, to play these games. To have progress taken away from us leaves me with the notion, "Well, what the hell did I spend all the time for just to have it taken away from me?" I'm going to use the behemoth as an example, every time World of Warcraft does something drastic to a class or the game in general, they leave your character at the same level it was before the change and basically resets the talent tree. To totally wipe a character seems like overkill. I'm going to assume that they need to purge the system of all the people that decided to create a character and cancel their subscription.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:11AM Phone Guy said

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I enjoyed Darkfall, but by the time I got into it I found myself constantly out matched. Because the over emphasis on skills for combat, I never encountered another player I could potentially kill or even defend myself against. Worse part is that these players are quick to strip your corpse of what meager armor weapons mats you have even though they will get nothing for it.

Honestly I'm hoping 2.0 is a new server with a more balance approach to character development. This way it comes down to player skill in combat and when confronted with an even skilled player the edge goes to the one with more suitable in game skills for the encounter.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:17AM (Unverified) said

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Actually, YES.

I'd roll a different class or type of character. I've tried doing alts before, but always came back to my main while the alts gained cobwebs and dust.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:21AM (Unverified) said

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It depends on how much I enjoy the game. In the early-mid 90's I played a Mud that had a server reset every 36 hours, you kept your level and gold but everything else in the world was reset. You could hit max level in a week or two of playing and by the time you hit max level you had more than enough gold to buy basic store equipment for yourself after every reset.

Also played on a Ultima online server that went through a few wipes and the majority of people always came back.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:32AM Fabius Bile said

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I wouldnt KEEP playing

this might make me consider START playing, however...

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:42AM Issmir said

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I think the biggest component of this would be The Greater Good.

If Darkfall has (and I only ever played the trial and that was a while back) no cap on skills and new players can never hope to compete with vets, then yes I could stomach getting my character wiped. (Assuming I was a vet). It would address a deeply unfair mechanic that was harming the longevity and potential of the game for everyone.

If, on the other hand, they added... I don't know... a new type of mount, but that meant everyone had to be wiped, then no.

So TLDR version... is it truly necessary for the greater enjoyment of all players? If it is and you can convince me of that, I can probably take it.

I probably won't be ecstatic about it though

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:51AM ShivanSwordsman said

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I've beta tested plenty of games in my time, so I've used to wipes. If the game went gold however, and the closed betas were over with, then you can sure as heck bet I'd quit, and avoid all future products from that company.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:02AM Harley Dude said

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To me, this would be an admission that the first two years were a paid beta. I'd cancel any MMO immediately that did a character wipe two years in (absent a refund), and probably never buy anything from that dev house again.. Two months in? Maybe I'd stick around.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:03AM Allegos said

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Every time I take a break from a game, I wipe every toon on the account. Redoing the starter areas when I come back gets repetitive, but it's still less monotonous than endgame grinds.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:23AM FrostPaw said

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It really depends on how long I have spent playing them really.

I was forced to restart my order characters twice in WAR because they didn't allow both factions on one server and they kept shutting servers down. It pissed me off a lot I was half way to level cap both times. However my main characters were still there so it was really only some alts I had to restart so there was some incentive to keep playing.

In a beta test I expect wipes so I tend to do things more casualy not working at levels too much or finding the best loot because I know at some point I will lose it.

To wipe a main character from a server after many months or even years of subscription and time spent playing that character would be unforgiveable and a guaranteed sub cancel. Any developer that decides that is the best course of action isn't a gamer and clearly has no concept of a valued customer.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:28AM real65rcncom said

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If the game was fun, and nothing else was out.. sure.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:39AM Irenicus said

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I beta tested, played the EU server and then promptly quit when they attempted to charge us again to purchase the game because of some NA licensing terms...i did not stick around for transfers either.

i just started back on NA recently as a fresh character and I feel that I already dedicated enough time to my character that it would upset me to see him wiped.

the grind is long and i don’t mind doing it...but I don’t want to keep doing it because some developer wants to change the world every couple of years....to my knowledge no other MMOG has set a trend in doing this, and i think the developers of Darkfall would lose more popularity if they were the ones to start this trend.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 11:03AM Temko said

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i wont continue playing for 2 reasons:

both of my characters (Shiva firewing and Fluffy Incarnate) are leveled exeedinly far, with expensive and time-consuming skills (Enchanting, dagger mastery, and so on)

i have over 20 million in value between the 2 characters (11 mil gold, 9 mill in raw goods) and have spent, on average ~4 hours each day online for over 1.5 years in darkfall.

wiping a good portion of my spare time is a major no-no. i dont mind them introducing caps, or changing the game around 180 mechanic wise - i dont even mind that they dont upgrade legacy armour/weapons with a new patch if they change something (like stats or speed on an item), but losing all i worked for,for 1.5 years?

and thats just me! i helped build 2 wonders in the game, both Kvitstein (3.2 /15k modules wre provided by my guild/me) and talpec (i provided ~500 modules and 300k/700k stone)

...and to get that deleted just because some people are to fk'in lazy to put some work into their game? hell no.

i'm the first on the bandwagon that the game needs hardcaps ala UO, or even optional caps like Prestiege classes. but wiping the game after 2 years? FUCK no.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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I remember long long ago, like over 6 years ago, Kingdom of loathing announced that when ascension was rolled out characters would be wiped. I quit shortly after that was announced. As it turned out, characters weren't wiped but I didn't find that out until years later, and by that time my character was gone. So in short, no I wouldn't keep playing past the announcement of the incoming wipe even, though I may play much later when enough is added to make it seem fresh, so in this case I probably would keep playing.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 11:29AM SgtBaker1234556 said

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Depends on the game really.

Most games have rather uneventful journey between the newbie experience and the end-game. I'm not really sure I could go through it without getting terminally bored again.

But if the game was /fun/ to play, I can't really see why starting it all over would be any different than continuing with the current character.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 11:32AM Coolit said

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I want a wipe. It will bring new players. I've spent a year on my DF character but will gladly start fresh with new blood and most of the exploits fixed.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 11:50AM Seldra said

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Depends on the game, if it's a hardcore pvp or pve mmo where deaths have a real impact in gameplay, I'd be ok with it. It's not like I can complain seeing as I knew from the start what I was getting myself into.

If it was something like more mainstream mmos where my character was deleted due to whatever issue on the part of the company and they refused to go to the trouble of repairing the matter. Well I'll be taking my business elsewhere.

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