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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 8:42PM Dril said

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Cross-server dungeons?

I honestly didn't think Trion could do any more to make Rift less appealing to me than it already was.

I was wrong.

Still, at least this confirms that Rift is simply WoW for people who don't want to play WoW.

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 8:51PM ChaosInc said

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@Dril

Sadly, I agree. I've logged in less and less these days. LFD tool has already killed most of the world (yes, I'm a PvPer), this isn't going to help it any. It's pretty much the last nail in the coffin for outside interaction, both PvP and PvE (after all, why go out and quest/rift when you can stand in the capital and get your loot handed to you?)

The things that have darkened WoW to date are being implemented here. I guess, like WoW, I'll have to keep an eye out for a "vanilla" server to play on in order to get the experience that drew me in the first place (ie CHALLENGING GAMEPLAY).
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 4:21AM Acharenus said

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@Dril Faster ques are bad?

I don't get the attitude that cross server ques are bad.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 7:02AM MMOaddict said

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@ChaosInc
WRONG. Part of the patch is going to implement PVP Rifts. Bringing World PVP crashing back to you. Look up the dev tracker on 1.4 PVP discussion.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 10:32AM Bladerunner83 said

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@Acharenus

" Faster ques are bad?
I don't get the attitude that cross server ques are bad. "

It's not the fact that faster queries are bad, in fact it is an awesome concept. But like communism (it only looks good on paper), actual implementation in the real world results in a different outcome. It's the total lack respect in a PUG and the removal of accountability for a person's actions. You could go into a PUG as a TANK (query time 1-3min), roll need on every freaking item that drops and laugh at the fools that need the items, oh and those 3 DPS that need those items that you rolled on had to wait in query for (10-20min). Now you can vote out the loot ninja if you want to, but that person is the tank and if you kick them you could be waiting another 30min for another one to join. In addition if another tank joins and realizes that you are half-way done with the instance, they could leave and you have to wait even longer. By then most people in the group are fed up and they leave to, so out of the instance you go, back at the end of the line, waiting for another group.

The loot ninjas are not the only problem. One out of every three groups has at least one retard that has no respect for other people; They resort to name calling and refuse to help. Now this would rarely happen on a server that is not cross-realm, people tend to treat it like a home rather than a hotel room. Cross-realm servers let people "use each other" and act a fool. There is nothing personal in a cross-realm PUG, you use the people that your with and you leave, no "Hi", no "Bye", just "Do your job or we kick you out of the group."
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 12:01PM (Unverified) said

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@Dril

Just play with your community only friends like you do now anyways. No one will force you to use the cross realm feature. Why hate on people that want to expand their toon growth without the extra hassles?
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 12:17PM (Unverified) said

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@Bladerunner83 The usual flaw in the argument complaining about cross-server groups isn't that you can get a bad group, or that it is impersonal. It's that single server grouping wasn't ever the bed of roses that it's made out to be. I played WoW for years before there was anything cross-server, and you know what? I had some dogawful groups, people that rolled for stuff they couldn't use and jerky behavior.

Nothing ever stops you from grouping only with your servermates, and I would usually group with two or three other guildies and grab a random. Sometimes they worked out, sometimes they were carried and sometimes they were terrible. Just like it always has been.
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Posted: Jul 28th 2011 3:28PM Gallacus said

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@Bladerunner83

About ur comment on ninja's If u Have a brain there is a simple way around this its a small feature called MASTER LOOT use it and u wont have a problem if the leader is a pug and refuses to allow it then he is most likley a ninja or just cautious it is you choice weather or not to use LFG Cross server may add the factor of gr8 More ninja's but for those who cant guild run it is a gr8 addition
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 8:46PM ChaosInc said

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New patch coming improving more stuff. Game must be dying!

I kid, I kid.

Glad to see some PvP coming down the pipes rather than "we added another raid!"

And to the first upcoming troller about to post "another Rift post?!?!": Yes, get over it. Check the bottom menus if you're wondering where your WoW news is.

Posted: Jul 14th 2011 12:12AM Obext said

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@ChaosInc

Nicely said!
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:01PM Keeop said

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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:03PM (Unverified) said

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Why is it going cross-server? I thought it was widely requested that it be single-shard?

Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:17PM Song7 said

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@(Unverified) Yes many vocals request many things. I personally can't wait for this to hit live.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 9:50PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) Vocal minority =/= Majority.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 10:59PM real65rcncom said

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hartsman said long ago (january or feb) that Rift was going to have LFG queues and if they needed to for wait time reduction they'd go cross server I think. Pretty sure I read that somewhere.

Apparently the need is there now, which says theres something kinda wrong with the pops if it was single server now it's cross server after like a month.

I dont think Trion let a few people talk them into changing it to x-server, they don't seem like that kind of company.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 11:58PM Jade Effect said

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People have such selective memories.

During the Gamer Day Roundtable Discussion, Scott Hartsman had clarified that the dungeon queue system could possibly be cross-shard. "It will be if we need to reduce wait times"

http://rift.zam.com/story.html?story=25241
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Posted: Jul 13th 2011 11:58PM (Unverified) said

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@real65rcncom

Well, WoW has cross-server and that's not due to population problems.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 4:25AM real65rcncom said

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@(Unverified) I'm not talking about wow nor did I say it's a bad thing.

heel boy
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 7:47AM Oskari said

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@real65rcncom

No, they are just pointing out a flaw in your argument.
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Posted: Jul 14th 2011 9:37AM Bhima said

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A highly populated server or shard is really a small number when compared to either a cluster of servers or the whole game. Before cross server bgs in WoW, you'd wait like 1-2 hours just to get into a game.
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