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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:14PM bobfish said

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I thought they said the idea of the subscription was so that they could release content for free each month and wouldn't need to have paid for add-ons?

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:31PM chum said

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@bobfish Yeah me too. I'm happy for new content but charging me $10 for something that was supposed to be in the game at launch? Thanks?
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:41PM bobfish said

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@chum

It wouldn't be so bad if they hadn't come out at the beginning and said the subscription fee was instead of charging for content. :(
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:32PM The angry pro consumer gaming ga said

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@chum How many expansions has WoW had? Of those how many were free? Zero.

Expansions are not the same as updates.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:39PM (Unverified) said

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@The angry pro consumer gaming ga

Expansions may not be updates but content is content and the big answer prior to launch about monthly sub price concerns was that monthly, free content was the justification. This is not even close in scope to a WoW expansion but it is fairly close to some of the free updates that have occurred in Lotro. There are definitely 2 valid points of view regarding this update/expansion.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:52PM Xeta said

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@(Unverified) - It's also not even close in price to a WoW expansion. Smaller scope, smaller price to match. But I get your point. Scaling down to a mini-expansion does make one wonder where exactly the line between free update and paid expansion is.

That's true for a lot of games, though, especially in the F2P arena (and I expect DCUO to go F2P before long too). Some new content is free, some is purchaseable. Where's the line? Wherever the publisher draws it, I guess.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 4:29PM Vgk said

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@The angry pro consumer gaming ga

This x-pac adds 2 dungeons and what looks like a raid, now let's look at WoW's WotLK x-pac

Ulduar patch- 1 raid and 1 boss added in Wintergrasp: free
ToC patch - 1 raid, 1 dungeon, new quest hub, new crafting recipes, 1 wintergrasp boss : free
ICC patch: - 1 raid, 3 dungeons, new crafting recipes, new wintergrasp boss: free
Twilight Dragon patch: - 1 very small raid: free

X-pacs are understandable but when other MMO's (WoW isn't only one) offer content updates of equal and sometimes even BIGGER updates for FREE then there's an issue,
point is you sub should already cover it
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 4:46PM stealthrider said

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@Vgk

None of those patches included a brand new 48-ability power choice as well.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 7:46PM (Unverified) said

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@The angry pro consumer gaming ga
"How many expansions has WoW had? Of those how many were free? Zero."
So if WoW does it it MUST be right?
No, fuck that, subscription OR DLC/expansions, not both.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:18PM UrkenInvader said

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Wait a effing minute... DLC for MMOs?!?

What the hell is going on here.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 3:30PM Daemodand said

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@UrkenInvader Double dipping is going on. Double dipping is evil.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:21PM Calen said

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bobfish - It's pretty normal for super hero mmo's these days to charge for powersets.... sadly

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:23PM Skyydragonn said

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I'm seriously hoping the term DLC is refered to solely based on the PS3 platform....becuase if I have to buy content like that on top of a subscription and (eventual) expansions I'm dropping my sub.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:25PM Ryukan said

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Wow, that sucks...talk about nickle and diming the communituy. Glad I don't play this game.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:28PM Yellowdancer said

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Wow, PC people will grumble but PS3 people will probably rage quit.

I don't think they are doing expansions. I think they are doing just these small DLC packs.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:28PM Unshra said

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Glad to see the embargo was lifted for DCOU, honestly I am looking forward to creating a character at will join Green Lantern Corps as a Reservist Lantern.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 12:35PM mechanicalturk said

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Maybe I'm missing something with all of the DLC complaints. How is something like this DLC any different than a paid for expansion? The DLC has more content than just a power set. It might be smaller in scope than some MMO expansions, but it also seems to cost less than many of the recent expansions.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:12PM bobfish said

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@mechanicalturk

My only complaint is they said they wouldn't be doing paid for content, it was all included in the subscription price.

If they hadn't said that, I wouldn't have an issue. Though I suspect PS3 owners might be against the subscription fee and DLC pricing on top, as nothing else on the PS3 works that way.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:41PM Xeta said

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@bobfish - Except they never said that. The plan was always to do free monthly updates as well as paid-for expansions, just like other MMOs. They never hit their monthly update goal, and have now abandoned it — the monthly updates are now periodic updates.

This is the first expansion, a mini-expansion really, from the sounds of it. It's been assumed for a while that the first paid expansion would be Green Lantern content with a new Light powerset, so this is pretty much what most of us were expecting.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 3:25PM mechanicalturk said

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@bobfish

I think it really depends on what kind of PS3 players we are talking about. I play DCUO on the PS3, but I am vet of many other PC based MMOs. The monthly fee doesn't bother me because I have fun playing the game and get value out of my subscription. I am also used to paying for expansions, or content packs that have content I want. Console only gamers, with no MMO experience, probably will be adverse to this.

Based on what I am reading here, I will probably pick up the DLC. I think it would be great if DCUO went with a Guild Wars model, but I doubt that will ever happen.
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