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Posted: Jul 10th 2011 4:38PM alucard3000 said

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@alucard3000 ahh I guess I should've read down one more line til I responded,but I dont think it will be a shot in the arm but more of a reason to hate AoC's crafting system.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2011 1:30AM winterborn said

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FYI to new players looking for good PvP this is not the game you are looking for.

PvE is great but PvP is crap.

Posted: Jul 11th 2011 10:18AM (Unverified) said

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The AoC US PvP servers have the worst communities.
Wiccana and the EU servers actually have pretty good communities, a lot more relaxed and friendly.
EU servers ftw :) (and Wiccana)

Posted: Jul 12th 2011 2:03AM (Unverified) said

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A game like Conan... or any MMO like WoW that offers PVP is doomed to failure for one reason, the players.

Let me explain... I have been part of the Chess world online since 1998 when ChessMaster live came online, in that time I've been an expert player and admin for Chess sites, I've seen the best in players behavior and the worst.
Many bad Chess players around the world have spent 1000's of $$$ to build PC's and buy Chess software to assist in winning, there is normally nothing more at stake than a worthless online rating and the pleasure of winning, yet the level of deception involved is staggering.
Now, considering the level which a simple game of Chess has been elevated to online and the trouble players go through to Cheat, it Must translate to PVP in a more involved game like Conan, Rift, WAR, WoW or other MMO's offering PVP, it's just so much more personal.

Let's run down some of the tries at tilting the play field to win at all costs...

Multi-Boxer - running 2-4-5 characters from one keyboard creating a virtual Battleship in a battleground one-shoting others while laughing at 'honest' players attempts to stay alive vs 5 simul Moonfires that burn through your Gladiator level gear and drops you like a sack of crap in 4 steps (DOT). Companies allow these cheats because it makes them money, but ask the honest players what they think and it's pretty clear they don't feel it should be legal.

Twinks - A player that has suspended real life in an attempt to grind every 'best-in-slot' piece of gear that game has to offer, appearing to others as just another player. These twinks again laugh their way though players who die after 1-2 hits.
Games like WoW even gave these players a way to stick the normal battleground players... Arena, where you could earn gear far superior to anything a BG player could, so a group of arena geared players could roll-up a much larger group of players in BG gear, this forced BG fans to suffer the hell that was arena just to compete at what they enjoyed.

Build-Rats - These players can level a character faster than you can spit, they troll the forums for "THE" build, no regard to what they enjoy, no regard for anything but the build that has That spell, That attack, which is pwn'ing everyone in PVP, the one everyone is screaming to nerf, but the company is not listening.
Now the nerf finally comes down, THE build is now crap... what to do? Roll another toon with the New flavor of the month, the one left open by the last nerf! Three days later they are in the fight pwn'ing again with the new 'OP'ed' toon, until the next nerf... rinse, repeat until the games PVP sucks, and sucks bad.

Lastly, Macros - This practice is simple, you press one button and place 20 damage over time (DOTS) on one enemy instantly, press one button and a sequence of 8 perfect combos hit your target... or you hit an enemy player and trigger a series of defensive moves and combos that happen instantly leaving you at a disadvantage when you had the drop on the other player. Players will defend automating PVP attacks and defense, but when it comes down to it, it's no different than using a computer for moves in Chess, the computer is responding to attacks, the computer is executing the moves in perfect order Every time, the computer is playing for you.
Ask any pro arena player if he could be half as effective without macros... the answer is a Big NO. Ask any computer cheat if they could maintain a 2000 rating without asking the computer for advice... the answer is a Big NO.


Point is.. there are way too many players who simply cannot take losing, they will spend what it takes, do what it takes regardless of anything, nothing will do short of winning. Cheating, spending large amounts of cash on PC equipment with SLI and any other perceived hardware advantage to assist in defeating lag, endless hours grinding mindless content, all just to make sure they have an advantage over the rest... cause losing is just too painful.

None of this will ever change, it has only gotten worse over the years in Chess as those who were caught just became more careful, invented new ways to cheat, spent more money and invested countless hours to make sure the other guy lost.
PVP is no different, every attempt at leveling the playing field is met with another way to avoid it.

Posted: Jul 18th 2011 7:17AM dezbot said

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So many people really fail to understand the attraction of FFA PvP. You're definitely not wrong if you think it attracts a reasonable amount of the "bad apples", but the number 1 thing that is really hard to beat in a FFA PvP server in an MMO is the politics, it is entirely player driven and can add an element you can't otherwise experience in an MMO.

Asheron's Call was the first MMO I played, about 11 years ago, and playing on the FFA PvP server, Darktide (as Jef mentioned), is the most fun I have ever had in any game EVER. Defending your guild's/allies designated town, raiding an enemy controlled dungeon, nothing was more enjoyable and no gaming experience would give you the same rush.

As time went on, some things were added to the game that took away from the experience, player housing which esentially added a "safe zone" is a good example. But I'll always be searching for the next MMO that will have a PvP experience which rivaled the one I had playing Darktide, the FFA PvP server of Asheron's Call.

Posted: Jul 18th 2011 10:46AM DeadlyAccurate said

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I've been playing on Deathwish all weekend, and I'm really enjoying it, but I had to shut off Global chat. Seriously, that was the most foul Global chat I've ever seen, and I've played a LOT of MMOs. It makes me really appreciate the GM presence in Perpetuum.

Posted: Jul 26th 2011 7:00AM Graill440 said

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Man, just read this, "this marks my 15th run-through of Funcom's 1 - 20 content.


I am told california has some really cool "resorts" to kick your habit. (Grin)

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