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Posted: Jul 6th 2011 1:15PM adfoam said

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You would think after both CCP and CSM statements and the video. CCP would just shut up already. I do like reading Brendan's work, but more and more I read something from CSM and CCP they just make the situation deeper and deeper.

This is what makes this situation worse.

"Will there be items more expensive than the monocle added to the store?"

Arnar: I fully expect so, at some point, definitely.

A vanity store shouldn't charge you more than a house mortgage payment would be ever.

Posted: Jul 6th 2011 1:36PM Brendan Drain said

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@adfoam I don't think the price of the upper upper end of the store was really an issue so much as the lack of low-end prices. I wouldn't have cared so much about the monocle, personally, if there had been a cheap pair of glasses in there too. I particularly liked The Mittani's response to this issue. Imagine if CCP produced a limited-edition ship skin for the Drake or Raven or some other popular mission-running ship. Just a skin, as in you trade a Drake in and get back one painted gold or whatever.

There's got to be some high-paid executive out there who is drawn to EVE for its time-based skill system and likes to run the occasional mission in his spare time. These would be the same guys currently buying PLEX to sell for ISK to buy full officer module fits for their mission ship even though it's total overkill.

EVE attracts a lot of highly-paid professionals and degree graduates, and if one of them is willing to pay $40,000 for a unique Rattlesnake skin or $500 for a limited edition Drake skin, I don't see a single thing wrong with that. That money would also go to fund the development of EVE and CCP's other MMO projects. As long as that money can't buy an in-game advantage of any kind (except obviously though PLEX->ISK conversion), I can't see the harm in it.
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Posted: Jul 6th 2011 3:54PM Zethe said

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@Brendan Drain

This.

I actually like the idea of ship skins ect. Give the game some customisation.
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Posted: Jul 6th 2011 1:21PM donweel said

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I don't see any indication that real issues are being adressed. The monocle has no real relevance to the game. Is the code for incarna being tightened so it runs better, ie not overheating gpu? Will they return suport for shader 2, or perhaps give the option to run the game in classic mode. The monocle was a symbol for a feeling that the players needs and feelings where being ignored in the name of greed.

Posted: Jul 6th 2011 1:48PM Khai mann said

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Horrible questions.... Only asked questions about Nex Store and nothing about more content, fixing the game and things that actually interest the player.

From now on expansions will be nothing more than additions to the in-game store.... Makes me want to sub immediately....

Posted: Jul 6th 2011 4:41PM Interitus said

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"CCP flew the Council of Stellar Management, EVE's democratically-elected player representative body, out to Iceland for an emergency meeting last week. "

Can someone show CCP how to use skype?

Honestly though, they need to stop talking about it. Basically everything they say sounds a little worse then last time. They dodge questions and give vague answers, this doesn't put anyone at ease. They need to just stop talking. They handled this about as poorly as possible. They should have replied right away, stopped talking about it. Figure out an answer internally and if people were still not happy give them the statement they prepared. This is just like watching a train wreck though.

Posted: Jul 6th 2011 9:02PM Crsh said

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What is sad is that CCP knows they screwed up, they know their plans are not popular, but they are going to spend more energy on damage control and finding a PR spin than revising them accordingly.

That is simply called hubris, it's deadly for companies.

Posted: Jul 6th 2011 9:42PM Darkstryke said

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Zulu is somewhat arrogant, but he's one of the better things to happen to EVE, certainly better at getting things done then Torfi the dreamer was.

I think what most of us 'bitter vets' just want is a working endgame, which currently is beyond broken.

Posted: Jul 7th 2011 7:25AM missingpiece said

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Thank you, @Brendan Drain, for the broad coverage and your active participation in many discussions.

CCP screwed up, again, but I'm glad this game DOES have a player representation sitting at the table. CCP, helas, may still need to learn more lessons like this until the CSM has fully established itself at Grandagarður.

The MIttani concluded something important : "...the playerbase took something very valuable from [Hilmar's] email,... that when players begin to react to a controversy at the level of unsubscribing from the game, CCP listens and CCP listens very quickly". Added again : the CSM will be the medium carrying player voice to Reykjavík.

Posted: Jul 7th 2011 11:33AM Xilmar said

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Great interview. It was awesome to see responses from both CCP and CSM to more or less the same questions.

I think CCP did answer the big yellow question as best they could. Am personally fairly pleased with the response to that. If in a couple years they do plan to introduce gold for aur, we the players will hopefully pull together again.

And srsly, the monocle is 4 plexes...sure, it's $80 in RL money, but in isk it's not so ridiculous. Still waiting for the 100 plex item. Now that would be a really really expensive item.

Finally, moar Brendan on eve radio. The time sucks, i know, but have personally suffered through the pain the past few weeks, staying up till late at night to listen to the show. That really doesn't matter at all, but just saying.

Posted: Jul 7th 2011 2:12PM starbuck1771 said

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@Xilmar You gotta understand though to most EVE subscribers $80 is a lot of money. CCP just needs to rethink their priceing . Only the realy stupid player would shell out $80 for an item that does nothing, and only cost CCP a couple of dollars to design in the first place. Can you say fraud?
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Posted: Jul 7th 2011 3:28PM Xilmar said

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@starbuck1771

I agree, $80 is a lot. And paying that much for a monocle is extremely idiotic in my personal opinion.

But you don't buy that with dollars, euros or pounds. You buy a monocle with aur, which is made by using a plex. and that plex can be bought with either RL money, or isk. And i am sure that let's say 75% of monocleers have bought their plexes with isk.

All i'm saying is that for an eve player, who thinks of a plex as 350-400 mill, not $15 or whatever, a monocle is on the steep side, but it's far from impossible to get.
A pair of glasses worth 20-30 billion isk, that would be a much better wealth symbol.

That being said, my personal opinion is that even paying 1 plex for that thing is useless. with a plex you can maybe fit 6 tech 2 BCs, and those ships are 10 times more valuable to me than a good looking circle on my pic.
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Posted: Jul 8th 2011 2:27PM Xilmar said

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@Tempes Magus

why is everyone out of luck now? If one was happy to buy a plex each month, how is it different now?

And the exchange rate is ok...what would make you think it's all screwed up? it's supply and demand, just like almost any other item.


and oh yeah...anyone can influence the local market. you don't have to spend a lot of RL cash, you just need to have an active account and know how to do it.
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Posted: Jul 7th 2011 7:55PM Paradigm68 said

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So what I took from this is that CCP is going to do whatever they want and unless mass subs take place, too bad.

Posted: Jul 8th 2011 4:48AM Wizardling said

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Right now I just want Eve to perform as it did back in Incursion. Now in Incarna when ever weapons fire start up major stuttering begins :-(

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