| Mail |
You might also like: WoW Insider, Joystiq, and more

Reader Comments (69)

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:45AM Kark said

  • Half a heart
  • Report
I always knew Riker and Worf was gay lovers ^^

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:52AM Iamonthemoon said

  • Half a heart
  • Report
I don't want to sound like a homofob, but I don't remember any homosexuals in Star Trek, so one could wonder if they were included in Roddenberry's vision of the future?

It's the first time I hear about those riots, I think it's rather just an episode from american history and that the rest of the world doesn't really care.

Anyway, happy celebrating!

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:48AM Liltawen said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Iamonthemoon
There was Dr. Janice Lester.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:12PM Space Cobra said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
@Liltawen

Don't forget the initial premiere episode of Next Gen introducing the Trill with Dr. Crusher and the episode's ending. IMO, interesting way to bring an issue to the forefront in Star Trek.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:13PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Iamonthemoon
I haven't seen any of the older series, but I do see the diversity in Voyager, I've heard that Seven was originally a lesbian but it was later cut from the series (more than likely due to the thin ice involved when outing a character).

And (although somewhat more hazy) there have been other humanoid species who practised same sex mating rituals, again referencing Voyager here.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 1:03PM Daemodand said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
@(Unverified) You've seen Voyager but not Star Trek or The Next Generation? Get thee to a Netflix!
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:56AM Temploiter said

  • Half a heart
  • Report
Shark jumping...

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:59AM Anax said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
What a great idea! As someone who has often felt marginalized in the online gaming world by all the "This is so ghey" slurs, it's nice to see someone reaching out and being inclusive.

I used to be part of an LGBT legion in Aion and, I have to say, it was nice to log in each time knowing that there were friendly people waiting to greet me.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:15AM (Unverified) said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
@Anax

As much as I sometimes feel like these groups are good for us I just...I dunno. I'm a gay fella but i hate the fact that I have to segregate myself from everyone...even in video games.

*sigh* Perhaps it's just me but sometimes I don't actively seek out the LGBT groups in games now a days. They can call me 'the ghey' all they want...I have an entire uban dictionary of swear to throw at them.

Ugh i dunno...it's a good thing but still..I wish we could all just play the game together.

Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:29AM Acharenus said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
@Iamonthemoon yes, to some, you've never heard someone or been compared to a women yourself? Welcome to the internet it is all equally insulting luckily most people have pretty thick skin.

Makes me glad I'm a boring average guy so I wouldn't have to feel targeted whenever some 12 year old threw an insult in chat.

I guess you could compare it to being called a nerd, dweeb, geek, gimp for being able to pick a computer out of a line up, Sure it was just words but you can't lie by saying they had no effect on you.

And if you can't relate to that good for you, some of us can however.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:44AM (Unverified) said

  • 2.5 hearts
  • Report
@Ocho

True very true. However there is sometimes a bit of pressure placed on gay folks that just want to game. Even if I mention it causally I get bombarded with requests to join LGBT guilds and clans. It's almost as if I 'have to' or be 'one of them'.

This was really hard to avoid in games like WOW with servers like Proudmoore. I had to leave that game due to the straight ally basing and...the drama...good lord the drama... >_<

I'm playing FallenEarth now and RPing as a gay man....I'll just roll with the punches and find a clan full of everyone.



Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 11:16AM fallwind said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Ocho self-segregation is still segregation. If a player can't talk about his or her partner(s) because that will out them, but EVERYONE else can, that is still an issue. Watch guild chat, or on vent, how often people mention their partners... it may not be every day, but it comes up often ("afk, wife agro", "got to go grind some rep with the miss", "hold on, BF is getting spawncamped"). Someone who has to either lie about not having a partner, or lie about their gender is still being pressured to lie.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 11:28AM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Dunraven

Oh yes I've been at odds and gotten kicked out of some LGBT guilds due to 'daring' to question some things and speaking out when some of them decoded to bash the 'breeders'.

Perhaps it's because I'm Canadian and therefore have a lot less resentment and anger than it seems the US based LGBT folks have.

Hell I've been called some nasty things in vent and in game chat. Very very nasty things....but I just...I dunno I don't let it get to me as much now. I just give it right back tot hem and move on.

I figure that it's my game time and I want to exist outside of the LGBT bubble that so often forms in some MMOs. hell this will get me flack right now for daring to say so...I'm 'one of them'....as it were.

Really there are some great folks who just don't care who you are and just want to play the game and RP with people.

"Maybe in fifty years or so after that whole Teaparty nonsense fade away the yanks will catch up"

I hope they do.....I really hope so....the world is such a nice place with everyone involved and loved.







Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:05PM Space Cobra said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@(Unverified) in Canada

You are right in that, Unverified. While there is a need for such guilds to just be free and speak, it would be nice to not have to have a separate level.

But, such is society. Police have their own groups to chat with other officers about dangers on the job and can joke amongst themselves with off-color humor that, if it gets out, would be too scrutinized by those who "were not there" or aren't officers; it's a way to let off steam that is needed without thinking about showing yourself on your best behavior.

Mind you, I am as straight as they come but being around the internet for as long as I have, I have met lots of online folks and lots of behaviors I'd never have met before in the Real World. It's strange, "kids" can seem so open, but they adopt lots of attitudes, too. Older folks can be rigid/conservative, but they can also be laid-back, because you have more wisdom (and confidence) to not let certain things bother you. It's true over all types, regardless of beliefs and gender (lots of hidden gay Republicans out there in politics).

I've always been put off, but fascinated by some of the things on the Net. I've always tried to live with a "we are all one world" way of thinking, especially with other countries. Some of the "Nation Bashing" goes both ways in some games and can get out of control.

You win some little victories, you lose some, and sometimes you realize the person on the other end is not ready for such a new perspective yet. This hobby brings many folks from around the world (especially when servers are not restricted) and I am happy to meet and chat with them when I can. Ideas take time.
Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 12:34PM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Space Cobra

Very well said. Please forgive my US bashing. I had no intention of such.

"You win some little victories, you lose some, and sometimes you realize the person on the other end is not ready for such a new perspective yet. This hobby brings many folks from around the world (especially when servers are not restricted) and I am happy to meet and chat with them when I can. Ideas take time."

Indeed... words we could all live by. I hope in time we all just accept and carry on.

When being gay gives no more than a shrug and barely a nod then we'll all be better for it. ^_^





Reply

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 9:59AM The Minn said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
well, I I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:13AM Acharenus said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Bladerunner83 You're kidding right?

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:17AM Ocho said

  • 3 hearts
  • Report
Awesome. Simply Awesome. Keep up the great job Stonewall Fleet.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:19AM Acharenus said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
I don't get why some people get so up tight about these events no ones questioning your sexuality or demanding you attend.

Posted: Jul 5th 2011 10:32AM (Unverified) said

  • 2 hearts
  • Report
@Acharenus

Not always true. I've seen some pressure and harsh labels being places on otherwise nice straight allies that either miss these events or choose not to attend.

That's why this older gay fella has been getting picker about what LGBT groups he joins in an MMO..they aren't all created equal... believe me. >_<





Reply

Featured Stories

Engadget

Engadget

Joystiq

Joystiq

WoW Insider

WoW

TUAW

TUAW