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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 8:56PM Daelda said

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@JohnLane The thing is, those AREN'T MICRO-Transactions at those prices!

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 8:57PM smg77 said

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CCP should just sell Eve to a company that actually wants to run it. I think they are bored with it and want to just focus on their dumb console shooter and vampire mmo.

Posted: Jun 24th 2011 1:35PM Calfis said

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@smg77

Because trying to address community concerns would mean they are doing it wrong, c/d?
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 8:57PM (Unverified) said

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Can we please dispense with the manufactured rage? This has been happening in EVE for years and years. Time card sales have funded entire empires as well as individuals who want to waste their money on fake space currency. Don't get your panties in a wad now that CCP are removing the middleman.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:10PM Scuffles said

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In a game where that once you strip it to its core has little to offer but being the "middleman" ... Lets face it most of EvE is Gathering and Crafting and what Isn't gathering is Crafting is Griefing people who are Gathering and buying equipment from people who are crafting... removing the middleman from the equation leaves you with ..... well almost nothing.
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:05PM Scuffles said

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Wouldn't be the first time a company said one thing because it was beneficial to the community and then did the opposite because it was beneficial to their wallets......

I'm sure this should be taken with some level of skepticism, but its not like there isn't decades of double dealing, backpedaling and flat out lies that form the foundation of a rock solid precedent for these types of shenanigans.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:05PM Trike said

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Since CCP is known for actively cheating in their own game to help their friends, I will never play a CCP game. This is just further evidence supporting that decision.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:10PM Lucien said

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"...think of it like this: you can develop a friendship by “spending” your time, or you can pay to get the same benefits that friendship would otherwise allow. (I’m sure you can think of a few other situations where one might
temporarily “buy” services otherwise gained only through social interaction.)"

That last allusion seems oh-so-appropriate given my feelings on microtransactions in p2p games.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:40PM Irem said

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I hope it's not real. I really do. I always had respect for CCP despite not being able to get into EVE and this would be really disappointing, especially since I'm looking forward to WoD. I'm not, however, going to play a game in which the -stated- goal of microtransactions is to charge a "basic access" fee and then pile MTs on top of it, nor will I ever play a game that blatantly sells power.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:52PM Sorithal said

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@Irem

Honestly if the World of Darkness MMO doesn't stick to its Roleplaying roots then I wouldn't bother playing it anyway. Hearing news like this though really kills any interest in it though if this stuff is true.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2011 7:06AM Luftwaffles said

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@Irem How can you say you have respect for them? For a long time now, CCP has provided means for people to buy ingame currency and even already-trained characters legitimately on their own forums. With enough cash you can buy a carrier pilot and more Isk than you can wave a stick at... on the same day you start your account.

If that's not buying power, I dunno what is. I just think it's funny that everyone is acting like the MACRO-transaction store is some new phenomenon to CCP policy.
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Posted: Jun 23rd 2011 12:15PM Irem said

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@Luftwaffles
I have respect for them because they did an interesting and successful thing with a neat concept. I was never thrilled with their MT model but the way they integrated it into the game was at least kind of neat. I'm willing to cut companies a break if they seem like they're trying to offer cash shop stuff in good faith, because it's stuff they think players want, not just because it's stuff they think they can get away with charging for. Unfortunately, "Let's charge a premium for anything we can get away with" is exactly what this looks like. If you have to weasel in stuff in bits and pieces because you -know- your playerbase won't like it and your only option is to get them acclimated to it and hope they eventually grudgingly accept it, then maybe it's not your finest moment as a company.
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:44PM Sorithal said

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MMO companies trying to milk as much money as they can out of the playerbase? Oh noes.

It's seriously getting annoying though how games that have mandatory subscriptions are trying to shove in micro-transactions into the mix as well.

I'll be greatly annoyed if World of Darkness goes that path. Which, since CCP's running it, won't be surprising sadly.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 10:04PM Scuffles said

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@Sorithal

Yeah you really can't blame the companies for trying to put the screws to people. The ones who are at fault are the customers who complacently accept it.

Until people actually stand up and organize AND FOLLOW THROUGH with say boycotts ..... to hit companies where it hurts (their wallets), they have no room to complain.
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 10:20PM Sorithal said

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@Scuffles

Well, it's hard for players to boycott a game that they're either addicted to or a game that they greatly enjoy but can't find anything close to it elsewhere.

Which is why WoW is now starting to suffer larger population losses as games like RIFT pop up.
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:59PM Eamil said

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The sad part is that internal newsletter contains a paragraph that very accurately illustrates exactly what SHOULD have been done, which is the exact opposite of what WAS done. From page 9:

"wW must sell our units of virtual currency - the AUR - at appropriate rates. No pair of pants, no matter how cool, should cost the same as a new Maserati; similarly, it would be silly to buy sunglasses for my avatar and pay the same price that I would for a faction battleship. So we might sell tiny things or batches of consumable goods for just a few 'micro-PLEX,' but we would have the option to sell premium content and services at a much higher price point."

Perhaps I'm behind, having not paid attention to EVE in some time, but I don't recall faction battleships costing the 1.2 billion isk it would take to buy enough PLEX for a monocle. Even ignoring that, the most expensive and arguably unique item, they should have gone with much cheaper prices for average clothing. As near as I can remember (I don't have the prices on hand), no two items in the store have prices that add up to less Aurum than you can get from one PLEX. The only single item I can remember that costs less was the pair of shoes, though there may be one or two others I'm forgetting that were between 2-3k AUR.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 9:59PM Eamil said

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@Eamil

That first word should be "We." Epic backspace fail on my part.
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 10:10PM Scuffles said

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@Eamil

Welcome to the wild wild world of stupid expensive vanity crap. The gateway drug to XP/Stat boosts.

Its all down hill from here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0
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Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 10:07PM Sorithal said

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CCP should really just turn EVE into a Free to play if they want to do shit like that :|

Usually players pay monthly fees to AVOID the cash shop junk. Which is why I like to pay a subscription for LotRO over spending a ton of money in the LotRO store just to get the same stuff that I get if I pay 30 bucks per 3 months.

Posted: Jun 22nd 2011 10:11PM Scuffles said

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@Sorithal

I wouldn't be surprised if it is by 2012
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