Vampire: The Masquerade is gearing up to celebrate its 20th birthday (20 years!?), and while two decades may be a drop in the proverbial bucket to your average vampire, it's quite a chunk of time for mere mortals. White Wolf (which MMO aficionados probably know as a subsidiary of CCP) is celebrating the milestone with a limited-run anniversary edition of the RPG's core rulebook.
The tome is available via pre-order and will set you back a hefty $99.99. The book's release will coincide with The Grand Masquerade 2011, a fan event scheduled for September 15th to 18th in New Orleans that will feature, among other things, "the next look at the future of the World of Darkness MMO."
Reader Comments (26)
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 1:09PM corvid said
Prognosticated irony: CCP would never be able to impose EvE-level death penalties on a game filled with the undead. The Emowhinge would be a banshee wail.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 1:34PM KDolo said
@corvid
Torpor, loss of herd, resources, boons, hunting rights, domain...
I think there are a lot of penalties that CCP could associate with getting beaten in a fight.
My concern is exactly that kind of constant street-level brawling and having it actually take away from the original theme of V:tM. The game was never (initially) about being the biggest badass. I don't know how an MMO can uphold that sort of gameplay style. Hopefully CCP intends to try.
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Torpor, loss of herd, resources, boons, hunting rights, domain...
I think there are a lot of penalties that CCP could associate with getting beaten in a fight.
My concern is exactly that kind of constant street-level brawling and having it actually take away from the original theme of V:tM. The game was never (initially) about being the biggest badass. I don't know how an MMO can uphold that sort of gameplay style. Hopefully CCP intends to try.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 1:27PM Unshra said
For some it was DnD for me it was VtM, WtA (Bastet mostly) and LARP, while I don't play it anymore I could see myself (look there he goes now) pre-ordering a copy of the 20th Anniversary Edition of VtM.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 2:32PM Borick said
@Unshra I grew up with Dungeons and Dragons but grew into the World of Darkness as my first 'MORPG' experience in the old roleplay MU*s.
It would be interesting to see a renaissance of the World of Darkness, but I worry that the invested fanbase will obstruct any attempts to transition their storytelling methods into mechanical systems worthy of 3D gameplay.
We had years of dedicated work in WoD sandboxes back in the MU* days, and trying to nail down the political systems into working gameplay mechanics always led to failure. Our attempts back then were all small-scale, but the experience leaves me a cynic. It will be interesting to see how it works out for them.
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It would be interesting to see a renaissance of the World of Darkness, but I worry that the invested fanbase will obstruct any attempts to transition their storytelling methods into mechanical systems worthy of 3D gameplay.
We had years of dedicated work in WoD sandboxes back in the MU* days, and trying to nail down the political systems into working gameplay mechanics always led to failure. Our attempts back then were all small-scale, but the experience leaves me a cynic. It will be interesting to see how it works out for them.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 1:36PM Eric Francis said
God damn it im so tired of these TEASES!!!!! Last year we got a 2min video... please this year CCP... something more substancial this time
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 1:50PM JuliusSeizure said
Just to beat complainers to the punch: The price reflects both the immense page count of the book and the rising cost of traditional publishing that demonstrates just why White Wolf have been moving to electronic formats.
Also, the book is in OPEN DEVELOPMENT! Go here, it's awesome and you can have your say on how things are shaping up: http://blog.vampirethemasquerade.com/
Also, the book is in OPEN DEVELOPMENT! Go here, it's awesome and you can have your say on how things are shaping up: http://blog.vampirethemasquerade.com/
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 2:00PM Krayzjoel said
IMO I imagine that gameplay will be similar to Eve as players control territories, markets, trading, "wardecs" with other player run guilds or alliances, run missions, and dealing with NPC factions like the Sabbat. werewolves, mages, and hunters. All of this while upholding the Masquerade and having to feed. How the player skills will develop will intresting to say the least. Cant wait to see what actually transpires.
I agree with Eric Francis above! I would like some sense of gameplay, but I wouldnt blame CCP for not releasing alot since ppl are far too quick to criticise.
I want my WOD! :D
I agree with Eric Francis above! I would like some sense of gameplay, but I wouldnt blame CCP for not releasing alot since ppl are far too quick to criticise.
I want my WOD! :D
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 2:16PM Dunraven said
The buzz at last years party at the top of the world was so far this game has changed direction five times and is being pulled on from all sides by LARP groups who want their personal vision of the game.
It all adds up to a ERP chat room and a lot of fail to me.
It all adds up to a ERP chat room and a lot of fail to me.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 2:58PM SocksForYou said
What's with the Hot Topic shoppers in that pic? Are those supposed to be badass vampires?
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 3:09PM Bladerunner83 said
@SocksForYou
I take it you have never played any of the vampire masquerade games? The characters in Bloodlines are all dressed up like bad-asses and hookers.
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I take it you have never played any of the vampire masquerade games? The characters in Bloodlines are all dressed up like bad-asses and hookers.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 3:22PM Bladerunner83 said
The classic "World of Darkness" fictional world is far more appealing than its predecessors. I hope this new MMO is released with Mark Rein-Hagen ideals in mind and less on Monte Cook. Well anyways this game is worth a look, the single player was filled with tons of social interaction between characters and NPCs. I guarantee it will have a quest in there about killing rats, to suck their blood.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 4:28PM Sorithal said
I just hope the WoD MMO keeps the Roleplayer fanbase in mind throughout rather than falling into being like WoW/RIFT/etc., where RPers sort of get a tiny little corner for themselves and the rest is nothing but repetitive PvE/PvP. 'cause this MMO could have a ton of potential as long as it doesn't fall into the hole most MMOs have fallen into.
Posted: Jun 17th 2011 4:31PM Wild Colors said
The biggest difficulty I have in imagining a VtM/WoD MMO is that the beauty of the table top game is that it's about setting and relationships. It's not about combat.
If I'm seducing someone so I can drain then dry, or abusing my ghoul b/c I'm a sadistic fellow, or trying to pull one over on an elder and make it out alive....the enjoyment comes from the belief that this is a fully fledged human being (or vampire) I'm dealing with. They can suffer, they can feel fear, desire, annoyance, regret, shame, etc. etc.
That just doesn't come through at all if I'm dealing with a computer controlled NPC. I just don't know how to get around this.
The setting is still pretty awesome, but the entire focal point of the gameplay will need to be very different than the things that draw me to the pencil-and-paper game. Unless White Wolf manages to do something magical.
If I'm seducing someone so I can drain then dry, or abusing my ghoul b/c I'm a sadistic fellow, or trying to pull one over on an elder and make it out alive....the enjoyment comes from the belief that this is a fully fledged human being (or vampire) I'm dealing with. They can suffer, they can feel fear, desire, annoyance, regret, shame, etc. etc.
That just doesn't come through at all if I'm dealing with a computer controlled NPC. I just don't know how to get around this.
The setting is still pretty awesome, but the entire focal point of the gameplay will need to be very different than the things that draw me to the pencil-and-paper game. Unless White Wolf manages to do something magical.









