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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 1:01PM EdmundDante said

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@ApathyCurve I predict in three years time you will have read Milton's Paradise Lost
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 9:20AM Eric Francis said

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So many trolls here with the "reasonable" angle.

The fact is, who has been funding CCP all these years? Eve players.

Who is probably the playerbase who would like the most to be able to land and play on planets? Eve players.

Who is the playerbase the most likely to stick around long term with a game that is inextricably linked to eve online? Eve players.

How many eve veterans would like to be able to play dust 514 while they have a 10 day skill queue going on in eve?

Thats part of the reason why some eve players are irate about this.

I would have understood console only if it was a standalone game in the eve universe. But to link both games, and force eve players to either pay 500$ for a console or forget about dust is biting the hand that feeds you.

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 9:47AM Kalex716 said

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@Eric Francis

I agree with you Eric, but i honestly believe a PC version of dust will be out in 6 months to a year post PS3 release.

It just makes too much sense from a development standpoint to support and foster your own vision of your IP on the platform that its already fully realized on.

That being said, i don't blame CCP for going for some more market share and making a console game. Theirs a lot of money to be made in the console world, and them going for it means they are expanding their business models in new and interesting ways. I also applaud them for trying something so ambitious, and so special in the shooter genre that i hope it sets an important precedent for the hole industry. A shooter with some real roots in "total war", drama, and scope/consequence.

These sentiments aside though, i honestly believe we will see DUST on PC soon enough!
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 11:49AM Rayko said

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@Eric Francis

Amen, brother
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 12:15PM (Unverified) said

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@Eric Francis
Just to be clear: a PS3 is only $300, only 60% of the figure you gave. It's cheaper if you get it used or refurbished. 500 IS a larger number, however, so may be more rhetorically effective for your outrage.

On to the bulk of your point:

1. Many of us, as gamers, have access to PS3s anyway. I don't have any data on it, but CCP probably does. And I'd imagine that there's a reasonable overlap between the two subsets of playerbase. Which isn't to say that you shouldn't be personally annoyed that your bar to entry is so high.I'm sympathetic to that. I'm just saying, don't speak for all of us.
2. EVE players are lovely, clever, passionate people. They are also, on occasion, rather vocally entitled. Nobody's biting any hands. Your argument essentially reads: "If they had designed something less audacious and innovative, that would have been great, but since they're doing something cool and I'm not allowed to play it, it's stupid."

But maybe I'm reading that wrong.

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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 9:52AM Old Tom said

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Seriously,

How much is CCP paying Massively for this fantastical coverage.

CCP showed a trailer of vaguely promising gameplay. When has CCP's trailers EVER matched the result?! Seriously Brendan, bucking for a shiny CCP badge?

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 2:37PM halfcaptain said

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@Old Tom

^this again, huh?
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 4:02PM Old Tom said

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@halfcaptain

As long as Brendan seems content to act as an extension of CCP marketing, I'll keep callin em like I see em ..

Pardon my standards .. CCP gets no free ride with me. But then, they don't pay me.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 10:04AM Kalex716 said

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@Old Tom

Hello Old Tom, let me introduce you to Negative Nancy.

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 12:16PM donweel said

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I might be tempted to get a PS3 for this game and netflix, especially if it allows use of a keyboard. Only some ps3 games use keyboard I understand. Also my friend whom would never normally play Eve has a PS3 perhaps I will get some game time with him I normally would not.

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 12:16PM Jenks said

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If the PS3 drops in price between now and DUST's release, I'm going to get one.

The cross platform interaction just sounds too cool.

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 2:09PM lethalgunner said

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@Jenks buy a refirb or second hand, I just picked one up for £35.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 5:34PM Eric Francis said

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I havent check ps3 prices for a long time, so 500$ was a guestimate. Looking at the prices, if you buy Dust (lets say 50$)and an extra controller, that comes to 390$ plus taxes (448$), not so far from 500$.

I would have gotten Dust if it both came out on ps3 and PC, but i will certainly not jump on the failboat 1 year later if like alot of people assume, console players will not stick around for dust's longterm. If they then decide to allow Eve players to actually play the game on PC, it will be too late for me.

Posted: Jun 14th 2011 9:41AM (Unverified) said

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@Eric Francis dude, where do you buy your stuff, it seems to me your being ripped off by them for your entire life, try amazon dude, try it... lots and lots of good offers, you wont regret a thing...

PS: It may seem that I'm advertising, but I prolly don't I just felt that dude is suffering from bad sense in business...
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 5:40PM Eric Francis said

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What could happen is when PS3 players drop DUST like a sack of potatoes, and CCP realizes what everyones been telling them since DUST was announced to be console only, is that CCP will sell the game for cheap or even F2p as a complement to eve online. Only then would i consider playing DUST if it doesnt come out early for PC.

Posted: Jun 13th 2011 7:00PM Brendan Drain said

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@Eric Francis They've already announced that DUST 514 will be free to play. There's an initial purchase, then it's free (like the guild wars model). They even plan to reimburse players the full value of the purchase price in their microtransaction currency.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 7:19PM HokieKC said

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@Brendan Drain - I read players will have to purchase playing time and purchase the game. So how is getting 'free' playing time after purchasing the game and having to pay for play time a 'free to play' model? Am I missing something?
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 8:00PM Persistantthug said

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@HokieKC
The game will be free to play on consoles with purchase options.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 10:25PM HokieKC said

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@Persistantthug - Sure sounds like a buy to play model to me. You have to buy the game but get 'free' playtime with the initial purchase. CCP is calling it a 'cover charge'. Then you have to buy play time after that (from what I've read).
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Posted: Jun 14th 2011 7:12AM Brendan Drain said

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@HokieKC Hokie, you never have to buy play time. At E3 they announced that it will be free-to-play after the cover charge http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/06/09/e3-2011-dust-514s-realtime-integration-with-eve-online/

The extra purchases after the over charge are for microtransaction currency to buy skins, unlocks etc. They're totally optional, even moreso because it'll be possible to sell them on the open market for ISK and if you're good at the game you'll have the ISK to buy them from other players.

And the "cover charge" is basically a purchase price except that they give you an equivalent amount of free microtransaction currency along with it.
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