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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 6:23PM Rayko said

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PS3 only is a HUGE mistake

Posted: Jun 12th 2011 7:20PM Rayko said

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@Rayko

if you're going to vote me down on this please explain why. I would be very interested to hear some explain how PS3 only is a good idea, snubbing pc gamers will mean you are going to get a large injection of non mmo players and while that may be great for MMO business wise it will make the MMO community that much worse ... and yes I am being a SNOB because it's the damn truth. It's why they don't enforce RP rules on games anymore and why everything is called a WoW clone. Way to completely screw the pooch CCCP.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:26PM Bardbarian said

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@Rayko

Actually because of the way in which the networks are structured and how Microsoft limits updates, content push frequency, and sizes the PS3 was the only choice.

PSN is over-regulated with cert BS as well but it is still far more of a piecemeal developer/publisher driven system than what Microsoft offers/allows with Live.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:40PM Rayko said

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@Bardbarian

That does not explain for the lack of a PC option.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:45PM halfcaptain said

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@Bardbarian

wow, huh. you go and intelligently answer a dude's question, and that's what you get. some people just want the internet to come to them.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:53PM Eamil said

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@Rayko

They've said the game would be PC-only from the moment they announced it so that should be less of a surprise. They've actually said recently that they might consider doing a PC release sometime after the PS3 release, which is more than they were willing to say a year and a half ago.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:55PM AlexandriaLace said

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@Rayko Why go PS3? Straight up for development reasons. Pushing an update on Xbox Live takes forever, and it's the main reason we haven't seen a single MMO show up on the Xbox. You can't patch your own game in a reasonable amount of time.

Sony apparently has loosened their restrictions for DC Universe and now for Dust, so CCP can patch their game faster on the console, should it need it.

And, if you want to be that much of a snob about PC gaming and the community, always remember that only players control how the community grows. If Dust and EVE are as linked as they say they are, sure, some of your standard "FPS players" are going to show up, but the deep mechanics, logistics, and strategy sound like it will scare most of those people away.

And, at the end of the day, if you don't like a mercenary, kick him out of your corporation. A mercenary who makes no money isn't exactly able to buy guns now, is he?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 8:59PM Rayko said

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@AlexandriaLace and the others

I was more referring to a lack of PC option but thank you for explaining why not on xbox.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 9:28PM Rayko said

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@halfcaptain

...the internet does come to me...hence me being on it....am I missing something ?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 10:01PM (Unverified) said

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@Rayko The problem with releasing Dust 514 to the PS3 and the PC is that PC users would not be able to participate on the same battles that the PS3 users do. Why? If you have ever played an FPS before, you would understand how handicapped a console user would be. Furthermore, I haven't seen a game that shares online services between two platforms and so I'm inclined to believe such would be complicated on the network side of things.

Yet you might find yourself asking, why not just seperate the PC users from the PS3 users and have each fight their own battle? Well, that's where CCP's ambitions plans collide with your hopes. They are aiming to forming a universe that is entirely connected and persistent. What this means is that every battle matters and social relations matter as well. With the introduction of a seperated playerbase into Dust, the formation of alliances would become complicated. Imagine an EVE player within an alliance requests its ground troops (members of the same alliance) to attack and secure a planet. What would happen if such an alliance could not bring both its PC members and PS3 members to the same battle? Would they have to opt for one or the other? That is why such a concept is troublesome at best.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 12:40AM Rayko said

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I obviously didn't see that.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 1:55AM Eamil said

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@(Unverified) "Furthermore, I haven't seen a game that shares online services between two platform"

Final Fantasy 11 shares services between three. PS2, PC and 360. As far as I know it's the only exception to Microsoft's usual restrictions.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 12:38PM (Unverified) said

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@Rayko I agree with the other guy. You must be blind.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 2:16PM Rayko said

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@(Unverified) Countering my argument that PS3 only is a bad idea by saying that I should have know this already does not make my point any less valid. =)
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 3:02PM (Unverified) said

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@Rayko

I understand your frustration. Its a pain in the arse for me aswell as im a hardcore pc only gamer.
Anyways, it would be logisiticaly impracticle to realse for both PS3 and PC, as each not only uses different netwrorking framework but ALSO uses different controls.

In the fact the controls might be the oinly factor to this. Imagine the amount of cry babes crying the EVE/DUST forums down with: pc gamers are more accurate than us! Thats the basic of it... Mouse is way better control than joystick.

End of.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 5:40PM thud said

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@Rayko

I think you have to take into consideration that this, like all games, has to be profitable for CCP. A big part of that is expanding their player base. While there is definitely overlap between eve players and console gamers, consoles bring a whole new market of players to their virtual world that would otherwise not be participating.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 6:35PM (Unverified) said

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EVE and DUST players will not be able to meet physically.. At launch, anyway.

https://twitter.com/#!/CCP_Shadow/status/79157434270232577

This would preclude the war room having any use at launch.

Posted: Jun 12th 2011 9:10PM Brendan Drain said

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@(Unverified) That's not what that says. That was in reply to someone asking if DUST and EVE players could physically meet in the same station environments. As in DUST players integrated into incarna. This has never been part of the plan for launch, but is a possibility for the far future.

The war room as an Incarna-only interface between the EVE players and DUST players is absolutely feasible for launch, and I'd be surprised if we don't get something of the sort.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2011 9:09AM (Unverified) said

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@Brendan Drain Don't get me wrong, I really hope you're right!

Unwilling PS3 buyer and future DUST player here. :)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2011 6:51PM Deadalon said

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Huge mistake. CCP just destroyed the entire Eve project by going for PS3 launch only. Shame on them.

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