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Posted: Jun 8th 2011 10:26PM Mattx0x said

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In Soviet Russia...

Posted: Jun 8th 2011 10:43PM Vazzaroth said

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So uhh... wheres the massivly platoon, eh? I need some mates to conquer with since my lady friends won't be taking a liking to this, and they're the ones I fall back on to try out new online games.

Posted: Jun 9th 2011 5:16AM Patrick Mackey said

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@Vazzaroth If there's a big demand for it, I can work something out. I haven't played a whole lot since launch though.
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Posted: Jun 8th 2011 10:43PM Madallaw said

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lol, no wonder russian tanks have and edge... CEO is from Russia.

Yeah... I came late to that party.

Posted: Jun 8th 2011 11:15PM Faction 3 said

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@Madallaw Well, to be historically accurate, the Soviet Tanks were slightly more advanced in Armor & Surviability than really ANY tank in the European Theatre. Rather than just piling on tons of Front Plate that the Tigers had, the T34s had Sloped Armor that actually increased the armor value while maintaing the same weight and speed. Not to mention the monumental production of them.

The T34 was actually named the worlds greatest Tank in several books, publishings and census'.

So yeah, Im sure the Russian heritage of the game has a slight edge given to the Soviet Motherland, but its still within a believable perspective.

Now, given the fact that I've never played WoT, I dont know how much of a "favorite" is played with the Soviet Tanks, if its like....6 Tigers and a Hummel cant even dent it, then yeah...some shit is funky.

/nerd off.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 6:25AM Dril said

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@Faction 3

Weren't the Panthers, Tigers and King Tigers all better than most of their Soviet counterparts (with the possible exclusion of the Stalin) and the T-34, while an excellent vehicle in its own right, was primarily at and advantage because of its huge numbers and (towards the end of the war) relatively skilled crew?

I agree it was a fantastic design, especially considering the Soviets emphasised production and cost over performance, but saying it was the best in the theatre isn't strictly true :P
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 3:41PM Patrick Mackey said

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@Faction 3 Soviet tanks are the opposite really. They have bigger guns that can penetrate lots of armor and tend to be more mobile, which makes the German armor ratings much less useful. Also, german guns tend to dink on german tanks... which causes problems.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 7:05PM Faction 3 said

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@Dril Hold on, I never said it was the best in the European Theatre, I said it was the most ADVANCED, the addition of simply sloping the front armor made them extremely durable, allowing the enemy round to graze off, and at the same time, making it thicker. Several publications, including the most recent, "Top 10" show on the Military Channel, claimed that the T-34 was the greatest Tank ever made. Not me. I actually think the Allied Sherman was better, not because of durability, but beause of utility, with Flamethrowers, Howitzers, Mine Flails, and Rocket carriers...But thats just my opinion.

Panthers and the Tigers were VERY effective, however, their rarity (low population) made them inefficient as Frontline Tanks simply due to the lack of them, or mechanical problems. The King Tiger was the most notorious of this issue, with almost half of their losses coming from problems BESIDES enemy fire.

/nerd off
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 1:03AM (Unverified) said

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Wow. Way to be a classic Russian sexist piece of shit.

As a guy, even I find that kind of attitude so annoying that it makes me never want to support his game.

Posted: Jun 9th 2011 2:06AM Chambers said

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It's more marketing than sexism. Boys like to play with toy tanks too, girls might like it also, but im sure the demographics for boys playing with tanks is slightley larger!
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 2:23AM crazypoker said

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@(Unverified) As a guy, even I find that kind of attitude so annoying that it makes me never want to support his game.

WHO CARES MUMMY'S BOY?
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 12:57PM ApathyCurve said

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"As a guy..."

You sure about that?
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 3:34AM Graill440 said

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This is rumor control (tm), laugh.

Whomever is making the statement this game is free to play is misleading the folks looking for a competative game. Its a pay to win title or microtransaction store implemented game as all lemming induced F2P misbrands are.

We will take one small item from the store, coated optics 400k-500k, want to know how long that takes with your playing "free" to get? (laugh), coupled with the statement by this company that nothing in the store will give any benefit over a free to play account verse a premium account is simply lying.

Those buying from the store or with pay accounts have vastly superior equipment minus the tactics part over anyone else. But then in a game with the same terrain and maps just how creative can tactics really be. Also note, this game is no way close to even qualifying as a sim, though they do list parts of it being close to one.

Of course the game can be played free of charge, and you get what you pay for, or not, and all things being equal between players, those paying for things or in premium pay mode will kick your ass, and do. Remember kids, NOTHING is free, regardless of what the pundants state. (smile)

Posted: Jun 9th 2011 8:10AM kobeathris said

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@Graill440

That is just straight up wrong.

Yes, some of the best equipment costs a lot of credits. At Tier 5, If you know what you are doing, you can grind 500k in probably about 6 hours of play time.

Yes, you can buy premium tanks with gold. They aren't any better than the non-premium tanks, and they can't be upgraded.

The ONLY thing you can buy with gold that is actually better are the consumables and ammo, and they aren't THAT much better than the ones you can buy with credits. Other than that, gold just lets you get things faster. Oh, and get more tank slots, which I will probably do eventually.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 8:41AM xilr said

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Ya its not free. Thankfully its not too unreasonable for the cost. Expect to spend $15 a month. First you *must* be premium unless your happy driving around your starter tank. It takes literally hundreds of games to move from tier 3 to tier 4 (I know I just went to T4 German Artillery last night). If I wasnt a premium account, you'd have to double that number. T4 isnt even the top, if you plot the EXP on a curve its not even the middle. It looks like it may very well be thousands of matches (not joking) to get T8 thru T10 tanks. You arent going to do that on a F2P account, the average human lifespan is only 67.2 years.... So you have to buy a premium account and you will need several tank slots (the way the research system works selling your old tanks becomes less practical the higher up you go.). You also should buy a premium tank ASAP because they pull you in lots of credits. If you tried to F2P without ever going premium and buying a "money maker" tank, you'd exponentially increase the number of games you'd need to play in your early career. Expect to spend $30 on day 1. Then expect to spend $15 each month you want to actually play the game. Im not saying its a ripoff like most other F2P titles, but you will pay at least a little or your tiny, inferior human lifespan will get in the way of you seeing the top tier stuff.

Posted: Jun 9th 2011 9:06AM kobeathris said

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@xilr

Ok, so, apparently, I am going to be playing the role of knocking down false information about "oh my god it takes so long if you don't pay!@!!11"

First off, I am not some expert at WOT, but I'm not terrible either. This information is coming from my profile page.

Tier 4 - M3 Lee, which I hate so I sold it as soon as I could - 67 battles for a medium tank to go from beginning to tier 5, no premium. Arty would take longer, but Arty's xp is kind of messed up.
Other Tier 4 - M5 Stuart, which I also hate, but I wanted the M7 - 55 battles from start to done with it.

Tier 5 - Probably about 100 - 110 battles. I still play my m4 Sherman because, you know, it's fun, so I have more battles than it actually took to get through it.

Tier 6 - Where I am now, 1 Item left to research, and then the next tier tank - 40 games, so figure probably about 100-150 total for the tier.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 10:06AM xilr said

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@kobeathris There was absolutely no false information at all in my post. I beelined German T4 Artillery (Grille). I've played 222 games (just verified with my profile). I have a 47% win rate. I am premium.

~200 games to unlock T4 (w/ Premium). The amount to unlock future tiers rises exponentially. (was 14500 for my Grille, will be 46000 for the next one, and the final one is somewhere near a half million)...

I doubt I'll make the highest tier even with premium. The number of games to hit the top tier in *one* vehicle would certainly be in the thousands even with premium.

Wrap the mind around that. Thousands of matches for a premium player, *one* top tier vehicle (there are many more)..... Tell me again how its practical for a non-payer to do this in one human lifetime?
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 10:49AM kobeathris said

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@xilr

I'm sorry, you're right, you are talking about Arty, which definitely has problems with it's XP rate. I just don't see that that applies to tanks, and the game generally, it's a specific problem with artillery and how xp is awarded.

I also misunderstood you a bit, I didn't realize you were talking total games played, and not just games played on that tier.

That said, 222 games is an absolute maximum of 55.5 hours, and is probably something closer to half that.

Finally, in response to your last comment.... so what? Why should it be practical to get the top vehicle of every line, payer or not? Why do you need all of the top vehicles? The game does a good job of being fun at tier 1 and at tier 10. You can only play one tank at a time anyway, and it tends to take longer to get into games at the high end.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2011 10:39AM (Unverified) said

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this game is a blast, heck you can have fun with the low tier tanks for free and do quite well in matches. The only trouble comes when you are trying to move into the middle tiers; artillery can be a pain to deal with and the slightest mistakes can get you killed in an instant.

Posted: Jun 9th 2011 10:58AM TheCrazyness said

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"The possession of a territory gives you gold," the proud designer tells us, "but that's not what they are playing for. They are playing for fame.

I find great lols in this.

This game is SUPER grindy during the mid to late tiers, and when you get super grind you get people that only care about that next upgrade or that next tank.

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