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Posted: May 25th 2011 7:27AM stoyer said

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Terrible model. It's basically advanced version of free trial.Will it make some people subscribe? Yes. But nowhere near Lotro.

Posted: May 25th 2011 7:36AM Kaoss said

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@stoyer I agree, it is a better free trial, so i'm not complaining. But I do not think it will have the success that lotro did. There seems to be a lot more restricted stuff and:
"There will be a wide selection of items such as armors, weapons, access passes, characters boost and Premium services through the in-game store"

Made me cringe a bit. Those 'boosts, armors and weapons' better not be pay2win stuff. I was thinking of buying this game anyway so I really cannot complain about this, but I think they could have done it better if they want to succeed.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 7:55AM stoyer said

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@Kaoss They said those items won't be better than dungeon & raid drops. Well, at least for now.

I really don't know how they choose f2p model like this. Most people won't even try with those restrictions.Why not make funcom points earnable via playing?

For example I do play Lotro. While leveling I earn some Turbine Points. I spent them and bought quest pack. I paid cash for some points and bought another pack. I can play without paying or I can pay for speed things up.. Important thing is game let me choose. This is the key for success for F2P model.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 9:08AM elliotrock said

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@stoyer

Yes indeed, agree on those points!
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Posted: May 25th 2011 9:37AM darrenkitlor said

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@stoyer Did you play LOTRO during its initial F2P? Content from the original launch was still gated and needed purchase.

I just read the FAQ from AoC and it says that all of HA is included for free (minus a few raids and instances) and part of Khitai.

That's a win in my book for F2P users.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 11:58AM Rho said

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@stoyer

To be honest, I'm not sure why Funcom's not following its own precedent and using a model akin to the one they're using in Anarchy Online. Essentially, you get the original game and the first booster/expansion (Notum Wars) free, indefinitely. You then have the option of paying $5/mo for just the first, rather sizeable expansion, Shadowlands, or $15/mo for Shadowlands plus all the other expansions released after that. It's a very robust game, even if you're just playing for free.

I suppose there aren't enough expansions to justify something like that for Age of Conan, and perhaps AO being the older game has something to do with it? Oh, well. I may be denied playing a Herald of Xotli under the new system, but I might come back and play for a while.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 1:44PM Sente said

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@Rho

The Shadowlands option is not there anymore, for new players. Existing Shadowlands accounts can still continue with that.

But I agree though that something close to the AO model would be nicer.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 2:27PM SaintV said

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@stoyer

Lotro has players in it ? Last time I logged onto Brandwine at prime time it as a mere handful at best. Was lucky enough tot see 50 people running around in Bree. Lotro = overrated average mmo at best.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 3:00PM Vagrant Zero said

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@SaintV IMO, people without eyes shouldn't be commenting on how packed a server is. Brandywine is so full of players that intense lag is fairly common (and one of the reasons I eventually left for a less populated server).

But hey, don't let facts stop you from spreading FUD.
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Posted: Jun 8th 2011 3:08PM blackblack said

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@stoyer
My review of aoc.

Qualifications lvl 70 ranger in less than 2 weeks.

Combat system
Combo on a rail - no freeform here. About all you can do is execute either a preprogrammed combo LOOKING attack or a set combo attack. Set combo = specific keys must be pressed or the combo fizzles, no chance to enter a different combo once started.

The combat is, plant your feet and deal with long durations between attacks. Use crowd control effects to pin players/mobs in place. The only thing that can attack while moving is something waving a sword. And even then they have to plant a little bit. No fast paced action here. It really doesn't matter what class or path you pick, while soloing, yer gonnah be the tank. Enemies with way too many hp and way to low damage will be the norm.

Stealth aspect is pretty subpar. No matter how well you have your hiding trained, you're going to get spotted quite quickly except for certain times of day you may be able to slip past enemies well below what would pose any combat challenge to you anyway.

Customer service
Customer service will answer the first question they want to answer regardless of whether or not it was even a question you asked and abruptly close the session in your face. Honestly though, this is pretty common among games.

Payment options, recently most banks have taken a stand against fraudulent charges originating overseas. Mostly due to commonly used online payment option companies such as PayPal etc losing or selling all of your personal data. Funcom is a Norwegian company. While the bulk of the fraud is coming from the UK, Norway is still firmly on the blacklist. You’ll have to pay with time cards from best buy. Major, major, hassle. Customer service was pretty displeased when it was suggested that they should do business with more secure companies such as Google checkout.

Documentation and guides
Aoc guides and loot tables are ridiculously limited. The few players they have left, really couldn't care less than to build any sort of databases.

The player base has almost completely died out on a number of servers. So bad was it that they had to combine servers just to have enough people to happen along and find someone at random. If you weren’t specifically looking for anyone, you surly would not see anyone. And even if you were looking for someone, only one class can track that someone down. On the bright side... that one class really can't do anything to them once they found them anyway.

Graphics
They are okay but still do not compare with other more enjoyable and true free to play games out there. There are nipples and completely naked succubae and it is extremely refreshing to be out of the crib, so to speak. it's honestly the only selling point: murder, nudity, fatality animation sequences and bonuses for them that can really change the tide of a skirmish, outright criminality of every sort stopping only just short of pedoviolence(full grown women and men are equally fair game), all the children live.

Parental control type oversight by game operators.
No.

Oversight of cheating and or hacking
nah.

My advice
Hit the free pron site for a minute and then go back to whatever else you were doing. stop before you try to beat the hacker that's been paying for his subscription with money he's gotten by selling duplicated gold to the people who're trying to beat him.

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Posted: May 25th 2011 7:44AM coledognz said

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They are doing nothing what so ever for players who aren't currently subscribed, but had previously purchased the discs. I've thought about returning to check out the "improvements" but this throws all those thoughts right out the window.

Posted: May 25th 2011 1:10PM Averice said

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@coledognz

They've done a number of "come back and check us out for free" runs for players who have bought the game previously. They're actually doing one right now until the end of the month...

I don't think they should have called it f2p if it's just an extended free trial. But that doesn't mean I'm going to hate them.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 7:47AM Dunraven said

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Bad model is bad, if the want to be as successful as LOTRO they need to copy it's business model.

Posted: May 25th 2011 7:58AM vaughan42 said

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Finally! been watiing for them to do this for almost four years. Also, I dont know what you people are talking about, the model to me seems way better than LOTRO's. Their's shoves the cash shop in your face at every possible opportunity effectively ruining any sense of immersion ( I bet Tolkien is turning in his grave), you even have to but frakking quest packs. This one you can play the game from beggining to end, all you miss out on is faster mounts and a few dungeons. The dungeons in AoC mostly sucked anyways so no loss there. Definitely gonna be keeping this one around on my HD in the future.

Posted: May 25th 2011 8:24AM Dunraven said

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@vaughan42 What?

Other than a LOTRO store icon on the taskbar and maybe a splash screen you never see the store, and 95% of the items are vanity...AoC is making no bones about P2 W between the armor and sword sets, and the rested XP you get after 30 the game is pretty much going to be a faceroll with a cash shop..I look for it to be inhabited by mostly ERP tards and PVPers who are looking for action on the cheap

Honestly it;s just another instance in Funcoms long list of fail.
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Posted: May 25th 2011 9:15AM elliotrock said

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@vaughan42

Mate you seem to forget the reason for a cash it is to let people spend cash if they want on a range of options, cosmetic, power-ups, crafting(Oh thats right AoC doesn't have crafting) components, content ...

As a business you want to make $$ or the game dies! So waht if someone wants to spent $10 on a really cool mount, let them!. So what if you let someone purchase a Legendary Weapon because they don't have time time to grind for it, who cares!

Thats the point to let a range of people who can't commit to a Subscription game to pay and play as they choose.

Seriously anti- FTP people need to remove that $15 carrot out... Wouldn't you prefer to choose what you spent that $15.00 on or not?

I was excited by funcom has not idea! Leaders in Ftp wft!
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Posted: May 25th 2011 8:20AM dudes said

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Uh oh. It reminds me of the Everquest II extended business model in a few ways. That didn't exactly explode the MMO scene into an optimistic turn of events. I fear for this games financial future.

Posted: May 25th 2011 8:21AM SalmonofAges said

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@coledognz Why wouldn't you? If you were going to return and play, you would have had to pay a sub. This way you can play much more than the free trial (lvl 20 only), and see the improvements in the game, and it will cost you nothing. You can even lvl all the way to 80, and get all sorts of good gear - even some T1 stuff. If you decide to sub, i.e. go Premium, then nothing changes as you were going to sub anyway. You will have lost nothing.

@Kaoss Your not going to be able to buy raid gear or anything. More likely 80 blues or perhaps culture armor. See here: http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2945508&postcount=24

I must say though, the class restriction thing is a bit odd. Not sure if I like that truth be told. They could always loosen that later on though, or perhaps sell access to them, either individually or as a pack. I don't really mind what they are doing. Looking at what you get for paying nothing, seems alright to me. If it results in more people playing, more power to them.

(As a side note, I am still constantly amazed when people complain about getting something for nothing. "But you haven't given me ENOUGH free stuff, you tight ass b#&%@rd!)

Posted: May 25th 2011 10:32AM aurickle said

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I for one wouldn't be able to return. I have more than two characters and NONE of them are in the allowed classes. There's a reason for that; I have no interest whatsoever in playing those classes.

This is not a winback program at all. It's a glorified trial. There are two glaring problems with that:

1) A lot of the people who have had an interest in playing have already tried the title.
2) AoC launched with strong numbers that then dwindled away. They need to get that player base back in the game. This approach that they're taking is going to piss off more vets than it entices, which means further alienating those players.

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Posted: May 25th 2011 11:12AM Xyzed said

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@aurickle @Renitaur and all the other morons who can't click on the source links and read for yourself.

1) If you were/are a subscriber at any time, you have no class restrictions. From Silirrion himself, "Any users who has at any time been a subscriber, or a premium member, will have the class restrictions 'unlocked' as it were."
2) The F2P is not as limited as some think. Go read the official sources. Everything from 1-80 is open, minus a few of the instances, and the new xpack areas. However, again, all of this is "unlocked" if you are or ever where a subscription holder with that content, ei: the RotGS xpack.
3) Yes there are limitations. As a buisness, they still need to make some kind of $. All you jack hats that keep touting LORTO f2p system, it is also limited/restrictive and was even more so at it's launch. Yet you still have to buy quest packs, just so you can do quests...whats more absurd?

4) Go read the offical forums and look at the source info yourself, lemmings.
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