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Posted: May 18th 2011 1:08PM epilepticemu said

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@poetker

Seconded. @Dread makes me weep his lack of self-awareness.
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Posted: May 17th 2011 7:21PM ImperialPanda said

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That's all cool, but I still want my one $15/mo MMO.

You make it sound like as if mobile MMOs are better than traditional MMOs. I think that's just personal preference.

Posted: May 18th 2011 2:07AM JuliusSeizure said

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@ImperialPanda

He's not saying they're absolutely better. He's saying they're better in the ways he describes. Obviously every approach to a game has its own merits. The point is, sometimes you might want something that fills a certain niche that what you've got doesn't, and you can find it if you broaden your horizons.
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Posted: May 17th 2011 8:17PM MaxC said

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I'm definitely feeling you on the whole console jealousy thing, lately. I love my console games, but I also like my mmos...but hate upgrading computers. So what is a person to do? Actually, oddly enough, my answer is the third picture in your article!

Last year I purchased an Alienware m11x (the laptop above) because 1) I don't have the intelligence or time to build a pc, 2) because I wanted what seemed like an all-in-one gaming machine that would last a while, especially in terms of mmos and 3) because I wanted a portable gaming laptop. I know pc nerds love to hate on alienware, but i got EXACTLY what I wanted. It's a tiny 11 inches, can play any mmo out there (and hopefully SWTOR when it releases), and was about as close to a console as I could get. My friend, who loved building his own rig, can't understand it, but I'm just so tired of the hassle of the constant upgrades and most gaming pc's being house-bound monsters.

Anyway, portability and ease of access seem to be this points that most games and technology are headed towards and I couldn't be happier about it!

Posted: May 17th 2011 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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I also own an alienware m11xr2 despite having a full gaming rig at my disposal, i use it alot at work since tbh my job isnt that demanding, I usually run 3 eve online clients with no issue, Rift , guild wars ocassionally and world of tanks, as well as a load of other genres, and i can never really see any console or even portable games system ever beating what i can do on it, so when i am away from home it kinda slots in neatly to compliment my gaming needs

Posted: May 17th 2011 8:43PM Tooat said

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With reference to your iPhone comment, are those games an MMO, or a social network?

I have payed for a few games on my iPod, and find them lacking in what i would call a "game" and normally have to played with people you already know, with very little chance to meet new people!

On topic, i would rather my comfortable chair, on my desktop PC!
I Always miss it when using a laptop, no matter how fast, i thought the point of an MMO was to meet people with out carrying a heavy laptop around, and you either can play the game or carry it! :p

Posted: May 17th 2011 8:49PM Beau Hindman said

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@Tooat Yeah there are several (I'd say getting near dozens now) true MMOs, complete with chat windows, persistent worlds, etc for the iPhone/Android etc.

Tack in all of the browser games and you really start to see what I mean.

Beau
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Posted: May 17th 2011 8:50PM Lateris said

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I was going to blog on this very subject. I think consoles need to become the Personal Computer for gamers by embracing a new operating system that can run office applications, PC games, and Console games. The power is there to do this in the hardware. Then the issues with code can be addressed for a solid standard. We see this with Emulators anyways to [play console games on a PC, why not merge it all? I use my PS3 over the Xbox because in my mind I can switch out the hard drive in the same way I do with a laptop. I can also customize my PS3 or use a mouse and keyboard with certain games. I like the versatility to go from a PC keyboard and mouse to my controller with its blue tooth mini keyboard. I would love to see MMORPG’s and browser based games make the leap to console but also the PC elements of windows and OS X make the leap to console. Merge it all and we reap the benefits. I am surprised Microsoft has not announced this effort. And on the flip side I wish Sony would release an emulator for the PC market. Either way I love my consoles and my PC. They are just so much fun for both.

Posted: May 18th 2011 4:00PM Djinn said

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@Lateris "I am surprised Microsoft has not announced this effort."

Right now people have to buy a console AND a PC. Anyone making either (or in Microsoft's case, PC software) could lose money if a substantial number of gamers stopped buying one of the two.
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Posted: May 17th 2011 8:54PM (Unverified) said

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I was glad to read this article and not see anything like ''CONSOLES R FOR DUMMIES!!!111'' or something similar.

Posted: May 18th 2011 12:27PM Beau Hindman said

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@(Unverified) Oh, no way! I love my 360! lol That might be the issue, I just wish it did a bit more and I would never leave the thing. lol

Beau
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Posted: May 17th 2011 8:57PM InkSix said

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Console gaming is my no-hassle solution to everything other than MMOs. And sometimes consoles have a game we don't have that I feel is worth playing, like Enslaved.

I also use OnLive. I now own full access to a handful of games on that service, and am very satisfied. As OnLive continues to get better, I find it less and less likely I want to upgrade my PC, but that's only if the game I want jumps on board with the cloud. So far, no MMOs taking the plunge. Might have to do some upgrades a few more times 'till that happens.

Posted: May 17th 2011 9:19PM HokieKC said

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When I used to play FFXI I played on my Xbox 360. I had a lot of fun sitting on the couch with my 52" LCD and 5.1 surround sound.

Consoles are the untapped market for MMOs. The only MMO on the market actually designed for this generation is DCUO and it's only for one console platform (and not exactly a top notch MMO).

I cant wait for games like Dust 514 and Jeff Strain's Undead Labs Zombie MMO (open-world survival MMO for Xbox 360). If these games turn out to be solid and worth a long-term subscription, I might not upgrade my PC. There wouldn't be a huge need to since I only have so many hours in the day for playing games.

Posted: May 18th 2011 12:06AM Nagu said

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While I think you bring up an interesting point, that is the comparison between java/flash/portable platforms and consoles, I would hate to see java and flash become the main gaming platform. Games that can run on every platform suffer from a performance and quality deficit both because they have to allow for older system to be able to run them and because they're not optimized for a single platform. Mobile platforms will see the same constantly being outdated problem as computers have once more powerful phones and tablets come out. Consoles don't suffer from the quality/performance setback because the games are highly optimized to run on that hardware and that hardware rarely changes. I would hate to see a world where a high-end computer isn't better in any applications because everyone is sticking with the same PC that they've had for 10 years. Realistically a mid-high end computer will be able to run any game without having to turn the settings way down for several years (an 8800 GTX with a Core 2 is just starting to show its age for example).

You're also missing the primary reason PCs are my platform of choice for FPS, RTS, and MMO games: the mouse and keyboard combination. Consoles generally don't suffer too much from this because the games are designed with a controller in mind, but mobile platforms don't have the same good interface and have to stick with a single screen for input and display and are missing tactile feedback altogether.

In short, I disagree with your opinion but you can enjoy the bad graphics and interface that mobile and browser platforms suffer from.

Posted: May 18th 2011 1:33AM Locus said

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Three out of many reasons you should be grateful for PC gaming:

Console + FPS = Fail. Has been documented before.
Console + UI = Clunky. Kills games like DCUO or 2w2.
Let's not even get started on the RTS genre.

Posted: May 18th 2011 2:22AM (Unverified) said

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There will be room for both. Consoles and mobile devices will never be able to achieve the complexity that PC games provide. It's simple physics. When you miniaturize parts, you lose power. You'll always be able to do more with a PC because of the inherent superiority in power (cpus, graphics cards, ram), interface (keyboard/mouse or whatever lies ahead in the future) and visuals (screen size).

Posted: May 18th 2011 5:15AM Angn said

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The comparison is largely meaningless, because the MMOs people do play on the PC are markedly different than the ones playing out on consoles and mobile devices. The claim that the performance difference is "generally the same" is misleading, and largely irrelevant, because the premium MMOs available to PCs are not available in the non-PC devices. (I consider laptops a PC class more than a console/mobile form factor).

Look, mobile gaming is real. We get it. Enjoy. We mean it. You can stop being insecure now. Flattering it at the expense of a perfectly valid and viable PC gaming style is getting old. No, the PC is not dying, sorry, and no, you're not better than us - that's nonsensical, because the platforms just play too differently. And that's okay, because unlike us PC troglodytes sitting on our butts, you modern, mobile, manly men are fine multitasking specimens walking the dog, fighting sunlight glare, and maintaing real-life situational awareness (e.g., survival) as you play your wonderful, immersive game.

Posted: May 18th 2011 12:34PM Beau Hindman said

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@Angn I think you might be projecting onto me. lol I have been an avid PC gamer for over a decade, and a console gamer for the last few years. I'm not sure where you get that I am saying that PC gaming is dying -- especially since this is a column based on gaming through a PC browser. Again, perhaps you are talking to someone else?

And who is this "we" you are referring to?

Beau
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Posted: May 18th 2011 11:37AM poetker said

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@Dread

I take your comment rather offensive and find you very abrassive.

Your comment is the exact reason people hate this kind of article. You are the kind of ignorant elitist that no one likes. Console gamers are not all stupid "Kiddy Konsole gamerz" we just don't have the kind of capital to throw down on a new $600 video card every 3 years.

Posted: May 18th 2011 1:21PM ChromeBallz said

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If you aren't able to sit behind a computer for a few hours a day your desk arrangement is probably all wrong. A proper chair and seating position are all-important.

You wouldn't play an MMO all day long on a phone and you wouldn't play one on a tv on the wrong kind of couch.

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