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Posted: May 15th 2011 6:25PM tooright said

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So EVE is a game about doing real estate, blogging ,and tattoo design . Almost thought it was about space combat

THAT WAS A CLOSE ONE~!!

Posted: May 15th 2011 7:53PM (Unverified) said

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@tooright
you're missing the point of the article completely. In a world of space combat, theres also a WHOLE hell of a lot of other things going on.
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Posted: May 15th 2011 9:16PM tooright said

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@(Unverified) The only one missing something is you. Because I try this game out at least once a year because whats not to like about an MMO all about some SPACE COMBAT!!!

Then I Quit in disgust a couple weeks later.

Now I know why , because real estate , tattoo design , and video editing is STUPID AS HELL LEEROY.
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Posted: May 15th 2011 9:41PM ScottishViking said

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@tooright

An eloquent argument, sir, worthy of any Toastmaster's championship.
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Posted: May 16th 2011 7:01PM iowahawkeyedave said

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@tooright Yeah sounds like you need to change your name to toowrong.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2011 5:40PM Wizardling said

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@tooright Nice public pratfall there :-D
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Posted: May 15th 2011 7:34PM Kalex716 said

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good article

Posted: May 15th 2011 8:45PM PrimeSynergy said

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The biggest crime in MMO history is the reputation Eve has built up. While not based entirely in fiction, all the rumors about impossible learning curves, a ruthless player base, being a second job, lack of content, and many more have turned off many potential players before they even try and dip their toes into the water.

I won't sit here and give the same old tired line of 'this game has something for everyone' because that's just not the case. However, I think it has a lot to offer to a lot of people who for one reason or another didn't want to take a leap of faith.

In my opinion, 'finding your place' in the sandbox that is Eve is one of the most rewarding experiences in gaming and I'm not sure if we'll ever see it's equal.

Posted: May 15th 2011 9:07PM DemonXaphan said

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@PrimeSynergy I'm wondering what more can EvE do than seeing it's equal.
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Posted: May 15th 2011 9:05PM DemonXaphan said

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This explains it fairly well of what is EvE Online, the learning curve is mostly a myth now. The hardest part of playing in EvE for new people is finding their part in it for some. This article lets those know what they can accomplish instead of just mining, PvE, PvP and playing the market.

Posted: May 15th 2011 9:52PM ScottishViking said

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@DemonXaphan

Well put. I do think the learning curve is still a little steep, but as you say, the greater difficulty for people is in "finding a place." That can take days, or it can take years. It took me fully two years to find a corp/alliance I was actually happy with, but once you get one that clicks, it's the best MMO on the market, hands-down.
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Posted: May 16th 2011 10:10AM MaddZ said

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@DemonXaphan

Agreed. The new tutorials, starter missions, and certificates all help a new player understand the game. I kind of wish someone (not a current EVE fan) would write a review of the current EVE. I know a lot of people I have referred to EVE went and read a 6 year old review and decided it wasn't for them. A shame.
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Posted: May 16th 2011 12:55AM Graill440 said

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A tired article, beaten to death. Trying to give laudatory comments where only one is due, the visusals in this title. Among the many things wrong with EVE, the easiest to point out and remind the folks about is this, the devs are still corrupt (the worthless counsel is still running is it not?), and players commit real life fraud (absolutely no way to counter real life trust mechaics ingame, easy fixes, CCP is to lazy to implement), and these two glaring reasons alone are enough to keep folks away, nothing else.

The same drivel that EVE is hard to learn is also an old wives tale, lack of a manual by CCP themselves explaining how things work doesnt make a game hard, just tedious, and the CCP company cheap and lazy. Players had to create a substandard one for it to even be available.

Trying to continually sugar coat the obvious that tens of thousands have already pointed out by not paying CCP, and the fact that even the devs and mmo sites they report to admit fault in corp security or lotteries etc game mechanics does nothing to fix a problem that will keep EVE in the niche catagory forever.

You fanfolks may begin jumping up and down now pointing your fingers, it wont change the truth of the matter. (laugh)

Do you fanfolks actually think any significant effort is being wasted on EVE with what CCP has on its table right now? Seriously?

Posted: May 16th 2011 2:07AM missingpiece said

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@Graill440

He wants a "manual" for EVE.... ^^
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Posted: May 16th 2011 3:57AM axler said

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@Graill440

"(the worthless counsel is still running is it not?)"
Actually the counsel got a lot of things done, that is why there is such a huge alliance presence in the new one. Alliances saw you could get shit done and got members to elect their representatives. Perhaps not fair to the rest of the community, but there you go

"and players commit real life fraud (absolutely no way to counter real life trust mechaics ingame, easy fixes, CCP is to lazy to implement)"

What are you a retard? People have tried to explain this to you so many times yet you still fail to grasp the point of the sandbox.
Its not broken, it does not need a fix, WE WANT IT LIKE THAT. That is why trust is the most valuable commodity in eve. Without that the game would be a themepark about spaceships. We don't want that. We want a cold and cruel and dark universe, a true sandbox in space.
So when will you get it into your head that people who play eve like the scams, and the backstabs and espionage and the meta game. That is what eve is.
I realise it might not be for you, but its not trying to be. It is what it is and some people like it and therefore play it, and some don't, and therefore don't play it. But there are always a few idiots who think that they are absolutely right and the game should be changed to tailor their needs and their views.

"The same drivel that EVE is hard to learn is also an old wives tale, lack of a manual by CCP themselves explaining how things work doesnt make a game hard, just tedious, and the CCP company cheap and lazy. Players had to create a substandard one for it to even be available.
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Knowledge is a commodity. People who know how to properly set up posses are sought after. When drug manufacturing came out only a few of us figured out how to do it and could get a decent advantage in the drug industry before some jackass documented it all...

"does nothing to fix a problem that will keep EVE in the niche catagory forever."

You really don't get it do you? Its supposed to be in the niche category. The players want it in the niche category. We don't want a themepark playground, the game would be ruined if the changes you talk about would be implemented.
Next I guess you would remove the death mechanics so we can just go around holding hands and be friends...

There is no ransom mechanic where a pirate could ransom a ship and then not be allowed to blow it up, because it is a sandbox and he has a choice, he can blow up the ship or honour the deal. Turns out only corps who have build up a reputation of honouring their ransoms get to do it, because people don't trust others. And that is eve, choices and their consequences, the sandbox.

"You fanfolks may begin jumping up and down now pointing your fingers, it wont change the truth of the matter. (laugh)"

Well I laugh at your pitiful troll attempt. (laugh)

"Do you fanfolks actually think any significant effort is being wasted on EVE with what CCP has on its table right now? Seriously?"

You mean like teams BFF and Gridlock?

You keep rage posting in these eve news articles and I wonder what happened that got you so angry. Show me on this wallet, where did the bad scamer touch you?
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Posted: May 16th 2011 4:36AM Mcgreag said

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@Graill440 There is a manual, or several to be correct. ISK the Guide http://www.isktheguide.com/ and Evelopedia http://wiki.eveonline.com are the 2 main ones.

Btw CCP have more than 600 employees out of which more than 400 work on eve-online. Yes they are ramping up development on WoD but they don't do that by moving people around but by employing more. They are going to hire another 150 people in Atlanta (adding to the current 150) over the next 3 years for that purpose.
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Posted: May 16th 2011 8:58AM ScottishViking said

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@Graill440

EVE Hater hates EVE
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Posted: May 16th 2011 9:01AM ScottishViking said

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@Graill440

Also: yeah, they're definitely not trying to simplify anything or make it easier for people. Screw those guys.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=909
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Posted: May 16th 2011 7:29PM Xilmar said

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@Graill440

wonderful piece of trollfiction good sir, congratz.

reading the first 2 lines was enough to understand what you're trying to say... but the wallk of text reply to your wall of text was a funny read.

+1 internetz
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Posted: May 16th 2011 9:27AM tooright said

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did you guys just go apeshit on that kid for saying your game needs a manual?

Yeah that's just what I expected out of "derr derr space is harsh and cruel"

So it's like this ... Space is harsh and cruel and all that self aggrandizing BS you tell yourself and you log in and get your tattoo design and real estate empire on.

I don't know ... sounds like Hello Kitty to me

Except for that guy who is a DJ on a PODCAST that guy is feared

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