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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:22PM (Unverified) said

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@Beau Hindman
Also, turns out Westeros is really an intergalactic colony filled with the descendants of the superhumans from Martin's Wildcards series.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 5:00PM Saker said

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I loved the original WildCards books, they were wonderful fun!
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Posted: May 11th 2011 2:55PM Beau Hindman said

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@SgtBaker1234556 Dude. I hope you seriously just not tell me the spoiler to end all spoilers.

Beau

Posted: May 11th 2011 4:28PM Unshra said

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@Beau Hindman I have to admit that they are doing the book justice, I wonder if they will continue into the other books in the series if the show is still a success once they reach the end of Game of Thrones. I honestly I want see all of the A Song of Ice and Fire series. Oh an an MMO is just a given and something I wanted for a very long time there are so many Houses that they have yet to touch, imagine the PvP faction wars. 0.o
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Posted: May 11th 2011 4:40PM Wild Colors said

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@Beau Hindman

The original message has been deleted, so I can't see it.

I assume, however, that he did reveal that Sansa's wolf, Lady, returns as a vampire in the second book.

I'll admit, that was when I decided the series had jumped the shark. However, it was interesting to read about Lady's attempts to separate her normal bloodlust (as a direwolf) from her new hungers as a vampire.

One had to feel sorry for the rabbits.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 6:19PM C Rose said

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@Beau Hindman

Hey Beau, I'm glad you are enjoying the show. I hate to be "that guy" but you should consider checking out the series because, as good as the show may be, it pales in comparison to the depth and nuisance of the books.

That being said don't worry, no vampires show up for at least the first couple books.

(Just kidding of course)

I actually think you'll be happy to know that the books are fantasy, yet grounded in a sense of realism. So don't worry about any crazy over-the-top stuff. Just good ol' political intrigue and betrayal at it's best!
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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:01PM (Unverified) said

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@SgtBaker1234556 Damn man, you could have avoided revealing that huge spoiler. I read the books but many haven't, including the author of this post, as he mentioned. Then he actually wrote:

"I simply do not want to know what's going to happen, so please do not tell me" And you STILL wrote the spoiler.

sheesh...

Posted: May 11th 2011 3:01PM Sladden said

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Nice reading, as allways Beau!

I am in a state where I don't know which game I should play. I am also playing Wurm Online/Alganon/Allods Online etc as you, but stil I miss something? Trying to play some Ryzom and find out if that is "the one", but I get errors when launching the game, which I can't fix. So I am waiting for some support by the team. If you like the game, then I think it also should fit me!

By the way, you should check out Istaria!
I am downloading it right now and everyone says that it is a great game if you can handle the out-dated graphics. I would love to see you trying out some more "old-schoo" games, like Istaria, as you did with Minions Of Mirth!

Keep up the good work! :)



Posted: May 11th 2011 4:05PM Beau Hindman said

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@Sladden I already looked at Istaria "officially" and have remained a fan for a while. http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/07/25/rise-and-shiny-recap-istaria/

Thanks!

Beau
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Posted: May 11th 2011 5:04PM Saker said

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@Sladden
I loved some of the systems in Istaria, but wow the thing doesn't run worth anything. I've had ridiculous issues, rubber-banding, lag, made it unplayable. Pity as it was a nice game... With some love, and updating it could be excellent.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:09PM Brianna Royce said

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Spoilers deleted from this thread. That was beyond low. Don't do it again or you won't be doing anything here again. You have been warned.

Posted: May 11th 2011 3:37PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@Brianna Royce

Jesus people. The book came out in 1996(!). How on bloody earth have you avoided not knowing until now? It has been one of the shaping works in the field of fantasy since release.

Ok, so here's another one and you can totally ban me from the site after this -

In LotR , the ring is destroyed in the end.

Wow.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:55PM Brianna Royce said

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Beau specifically asked for no spoilers right in the column itself because he's not read the books. Several people on staff haven't finished the series -- surely it's the same for the commenters. I bet a lot of them will now!

FWIW and OT, I love Sean Bean, but he's not a very good Ned. Too martial and emotional. Doesn't have the right face for it. (The guy playing Benjen would have made a better Ned.)
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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:57PM Tanek said

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@SgtBaker1234556

While the books have been out for a while and have a good size following, they are not exactly as well known as something like Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. It may seem that they are and that all the big plot points would be common knowledge by now, but that is an illusion created within a community that has a higher than average number of people who are likely to have heard of and read them.

With the series on HBO now, more people are getting interested, but there are probably many watching who had never heard of the books and maybe still aren't planning to read the books (crazy talk, I know, but it happens).

Plus, yeah, there was the specific "no spoilers" request to consider. ;)
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Posted: May 11th 2011 3:59PM Beau Hindman said

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@Tanek I haven't read Harry Potter, either. hehe I used to have more time for reading, but it was taken up with animal behavior books. I would shop for a good fantasy series all the time, but the last one I truly enjoyed was the Dragonlance books.

Beau

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Posted: May 11th 2011 4:10PM Tanek said

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@Beau Hindman

Heh. :) I only used Harry Potter and LotR as examples because they have had the benefit of big screen treatment to put them in the public consciousness. Even if someone has not read Harry Potter or seen the movies, it is more likely that the name would be familiar. A Game of Thrones does not quite reach that level. I know a couple who are liking the HBO series, but are not going to read the books and would be confused as all get out if I mentioned 'A Song of Ice and Fire'.

Speaking of spoilers and Potter, though, I still remember the Dragon*Con when some evil person put spoilers on a t-shirt. I really thought there was going to be bloodshed.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 4:21PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@Tanek

Yeah, yeah and in the same vein - the show is not aired around the globe - but this site is accessible everywhere. So the "international audience" who read the article, but have not read the books nor can view the series will get spoilers just by coming here and reading about the white walkers and armies and whatnot.

It's a really silly discussion.

The books are old.
The effort of trying to keep yourself "spoilerfree" for the TV-series is better spent by reading the damn things (it doesn't take *that* many hours to get through the first). They're much better than the series anyhow (and the series is amazingly good, apart from Sean Bean).

And to add some content that is related to MMO's -
I agree that Song of Ice and Fire would make a bad MMO (unless is was rather EVE-esque ffa sandbox, where guilds could band together in alliances just like the major houses and their bannermen) - but it would make a quite excellent MMO-RTS.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 6:02PM Vagrant Zero said

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@SgtBaker1234556 You have to be real deep inside your mother's basement if you're equivocating Martin to Tolkien.

Also thank you Massively staff for clearing out the garbage, while I'm not certain if I'll ever read Martin's work (got through the first 2 chapters of the first book before my skull was bored out of my head), I'd rather not have things spoiled just in case I do give it another shot.
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Posted: May 11th 2011 6:25PM C Rose said

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@Brianna Royce

Wow Brianna, quite a strong editorial about poor ol' Mr. Bean. (joking)

But actually I kind of agree. I'm a big fan of his and think he's a tremendous actor, but yeah maybe a different choice could've been considered more closely. Probably just the fact he was a pretty big name to cast as Ned is what mainly got him the role. That and like I said he is a great actor too.

And also the guy playing Benjen (Joseph Mawle for all those interested) is quite good and often steals the scenes as well.
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Posted: May 12th 2011 4:50AM JuliusSeizure said

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@SgtBaker1234556

World establishing concepts mentioned in the early chapters of a book or first episode of a TV series do not count as spoilers. Ever. They are what is referred to as "hooks", ideas that are designed to pique the interest of the audience in the first place. There's no hypocrisy in talking about them and condemning reveals of later plot elements.
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