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Posted: May 8th 2011 1:21PM Octahedron said

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What I've been wondering if it's considered bad form to play on an RP server without actually really being an RPer. I'm on Faeblight, simply because it seems like where the "nice" players are. To be fair, I don't use the leetspeak or anything like that, but it is still something I'm wondering.

Posted: May 8th 2011 1:26PM (Unverified) said

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@Octahedron This is the author of the article, though for some reason I'm still showin' up as unverified. Hah. ANYWAY, as an RPer I'd say it's not bad form at all as long as you're respectful of those who do roleplay. Follow the naming rules and general etiquette (Don't speak out-of-character in public channels like /say, /yell, /emote, and so forth. General chat and the like is all OOC though) and you're fine. I know plenty of people who roll on RP servers because they prefer the player base. Just respect the RPers and all will be well. :3
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Posted: May 8th 2011 1:35PM Pingles said

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@Octahedron

I'd guess that 90% of the players on an RP server don't RP and are there for exactly the same reason you are (with 3% there just to annoy the RPers).

I am not an RPer but will occasionally get caught up with it if I see someone doing something interesting.

That's rare, though. Why does it seem like 75% of roleplaying is a couple (sorry, I mean "couple") having a moody, whiny spat in public?
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Posted: May 8th 2011 4:31PM Irem said

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@Pingles
"Why does it seem like 75% of roleplaying is a couple (sorry, I mean 'couple') having a moody, whiny spat in public?"

Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is crap).

@Octahedron
I have mixed feelings on it. If I can't tell that you're not an RPer (following the naming rules, not speaking out of character in public channels--or whatever the policy for that particular game is), I have no issue with it whatsoever. Even most RPers aren't in character all the time on RP servers, so it really isn't any different. I have, however, met some non-RPers who rolled on an RP server for the "more mature community" and proceeded to act as though the rules didn't apply to them at all. A few of them were friends of mine that I raided with and liked very much, but who just didn't understand what the big deal was about naming their character after an SNL joke or whatever. RP communities are kind of fragile beasts and if RPers feel like they've been outnumbered to the point that it doesn't feel like an RP server any more, they'll start to leave.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 5:42PM Octahedron said

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@Irem

Don't you worry, I'm not one to break immersion for people outside of the general channels. I actually name characters using vaguely fantasy names, so that's never been an issue. I tend to talk in character sometimes anyway, so it works out well for me.
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Posted: May 9th 2011 10:40AM real65rcncom said

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@Pingles
Pingles said: "I'd guess that 90% of the players on an RP server don't RP and are there for exactly the same reason you are (with 3% there just to annoy the RPers)."

What a meaty assumption, lol.

More than likely, it has to do with the fact that the RP servers are "HIGH" and the regular ones are "Medium" and such. Players wanting to play a new game don't want to get stuck on dead servers, so they naturally flock to ones highly populated.

When most MMOs start to fade, the ones usually left standing after all the shuffling are the RP ones.. mainly because there's a bunch of umm.. 'dedicated' people on them who keep playing. It just makes the game seem more lively to see people while running around when you're playing.. even if they are /shouting 'Egads.. forsooth and forevermore good sir.." and junk.

I think people have to get over their self-importance if they think the sole reason some paying customer wants to roll on their server is to 'annoy' them.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 1:37PM jpo said

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This is the standard reply from every game regarding the naming rules on the RP server.
I have yet to see a game enforce the rule.

RP is more than a name...yet no game has ever done anything to enforce even the most basic of RP standards.

I guess what I'm trying to so in response to this article is...."Yeh, whatever".



Posted: May 8th 2011 3:06PM DevilSei said

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@jpo

Yeah, I was about to say that myself. Having played around on more than a few RP servers in different games, this is just the generic response you'll find under any RP terms and rules listing. It's also never been enforced. Chat channels were still full of Chuck Norris jokes, talking about this or that celebrity, and so on.

The devs aren't going to waste their time going after the people because its pointless, banning accounts for it would be far too drastic and would easily kill off their playerbase. Players also don't bother to report them because they know it isn't going to do much either.
Instead it all just moves to close-knit groups and guilds, who tend to act rather... assy, towards people not in the guild, even if they aren't being insulting towards them.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 4:19PM tmarg said

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@DevilSei

I don't RP, but I imagine that a perfectly reasonable and effective deterrent for people who refuse to follow RP server rules would be to force them to pay for a transfer to a non-RP server.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 4:45PM Irem said

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@tmarg
The problem with any official enforcement is that Scott Hartsman is correct in saying that it's a subjective thing. Not just character names, but even what constitutes RP. In order to really crack down on it, a company would need to establish minimum standards for RP, which--as much as some of us might be thrilled with that--is really not realistic. The GMs can be fairly sure that someone with the name "Ipwnsyouhard" isn't interested in RPing and is breaking the rules, but there have been people with some fairly ridiculous names that talked their way out of a forced name change by simply making up a reason for it to be appropriate to RP. And there have been some RPers who really DID have somewhat unusual names who got reported and had to change them (names like Door or Prince can be mistaken for non-RP names when they're meant to be family names, nicknames, or aliases). So to do anything like requiring server transfers would need more direct oversight and review than most companies are willing (or able) to expend the resources for.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 8:30PM Jade Effect said

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@jpo

Mythic did enforce the RP naming rules (for the RP servers, obviously) in Dark Age of Camelot. You don't have all those lame "X game is better than Y game" rubbish argument or Chuck Norris jokes in open channel either, because you will definitely get reported for it.

On a separate note, Turbine also enforced their naming rules in regard to players naming their characters after established lore characters. In other words, no naming your ranger Leggolas. Sometimes, you'll see players with very weird numbers in their names. That's because their original names were deemed unsuitable by Turbine and were changed.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 1:46PM Nephilim said

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I enjoyed my time on Faeblight. I met a lot of nice, wonderful people and had some great moments with them. I wasn't an RPer but respected the RP that went on around me. There were a few people who chose to RP in the public channels and refused to accept that those were generally known as OOC. They would insult players while "in character" acting as if the things they talked about don't exist and they're crazy. Then they proceeded to ignore everyone that had a lick of sense in them.

Posted: May 8th 2011 1:49PM Alex Oglitchkin said

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Post #283 on the forums is the exact reason why I can't stand RP servers. The person in the post whines about being harassed....well you know what people have been harassed for what they wore, how they spoke, their name, their race, and color. I'll quote a famous line of EA. If it's in the game it's in the game. Like if I saw a player ingame with poor gear and I was decked out in gear why couldn't I thrash them like the arrogant heroes you see in movies and games? *looks at player trying to get a raid together* /says Pshh boy with that armor you'd be lucky to get anyone willing to help the less talented. Or.. /yell Everyone beware of [name] for he has been known to wipe entire raids with his awful swordsmanship.

RP bullies SHOULD exist as long as they don't make it too personal. If everyone is all hugs n kisses then it's just retarded. I give it a month of the GMs maintaining some ordinance before they start to let things slide like every other MMO I have played.

Posted: May 8th 2011 1:57PM Bhagpuss said

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I'm mystified.

I play Guardian on one RP server and Defiant on another. I was completely unaware that there was any controversy about this.

I've seen virtually no offensive, or even out-of-context names outside of Warfronts (where they are commonplace from other servers in the cluster) .

But then, I play all MMOs with all overhead names switched off.

Posted: May 8th 2011 2:24PM Dunraven said

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I like the way TOR is planning on handling it, along with the standard naming policy which they plan to enforce players have the option of assigning a Star Wars sounding name to other players...there is even a toggle to do it automatically.

even though I'm not in the beta I don't think I can legally say too much on how it does work other than it's pretty fricking amazing and ends the whole naming issue once and for all.

Posted: May 8th 2011 4:58PM Saker said

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I'm all fro naming policies in all MMO's as I just -HATE- to see all the people with just absolutely stupid-a@@ names. It bothers me. There's no excuse. In any fantasy genre game for instance there are numerous name-generators available for those who aren't up to the "challenge". It seems pretty pathetic that in a genre like MMO's where you do tend to put some time into playing a character that you wouldn't take the time to make the arguably the single most central identifier of that character be something good/fitting.

Posted: May 8th 2011 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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As far as I'm concerned, names such as "Imadruid" should not be allowed on ANY server in ANY game.

Posted: May 8th 2011 11:22PM Alex Oglitchkin said

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@(Unverified) Why not? It's a clever name. I have seen people with names like Iwanttobeaknight and they are rolling a different class. It's witty stuff and after awhile names you want are taken so you are left with little to go with. I love the good pvpers with names like Umadbrah. Like my druid's name is Wonthealbaddies. It's speaking about my char. If you suck then you can die.

I'm thinking the RP servers are the carebears of the communities.
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Posted: May 9th 2011 12:17AM Faction 3 said

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@Alex Oglitchkin No...it's really not Clever, Funny, or Witty. If you're running around with a Character named "Kickazz" or "Jizzrockit", then the last thing you're be percieved as is Funny or Creative.

You're not George Carlin or Rodney Dangerfield, leave the comedy to the professionals...

There's been VERY few times in my years of playing MMOs where I found a dumbass name remotely humorous, and even then, it was a CREATIVE play on words or unique for the race / gender/ class combination.

I mean, if you want to run around with a character named "Shithead", more power to you, and at the same time, if "Udonthealbaddies", We really dont care the reason why, but if peeps criticize your lack of creativity and asshattery, you can't blame them.

Lets also leave the RP community out of this, again, in several posts here, I've said I've never played Rift or have a interest to, and my old WoW main was on Korialstrasz (Vaulknare), so I never touched an RP server, but lets not roast on people who dont share your humor (or lack thereof) simply based on the server they choose....

Lastly, Im not attacking you personally, just the overall demeanor of people with the same mindset as you. Its nothing personal, trust me. But c'mon...if people don't find it funny, then they don't find it funny. No reason to categorize a entire community as "Carebears" based on what they find funny or how they find their fun.
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Posted: May 8th 2011 10:36PM Faction 3 said

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I remember someone saying there was a Character on a RP server named "Bonghitz".

I lol'd.

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