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Posted: May 4th 2011 10:55PM DiscordSK said

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Ruby, two issues with what you said.

First.. its more akin to lending a friend a high value item, which he or she then left out in the open unattended, and a thief came by and picked it up. Yes, the thief is still a thief, but they were responsible for the item. Sony in this case seriously dropped the ball, and yes they are very responsible for what happened.

Second Ican't help but think Sony blundered into this fight without properly guaging what the result was going to be. They are being specificlly targetted for a reason. I can't help but wonder how much this ties to Sony's attempt to subpoena the whole damn internet, in regards to the jailbreak thing, something that without doubt that raised the ire of the people who are now attacking them.

While it sucks for us, I'm sure my name is on that database too as I used to play SOE games as well, to be the ones most hurt by this in the short term I can't help but think Sony could have avoided this whole mess, and saved me alot of grief, if they hadn't been dumb enough to pick a fight they had no way of ever winning. Lets face it, everything gets hacked and pirated eventually, and once again heavy handed approaches by companies has hurt us, the consumer, the most.

Posted: May 4th 2011 11:22PM DiscordSK said

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Umm, Rubi not Ruby.. sorry :P Hehe.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 2:42AM starbuck1771 said

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@DiscordSK Actualy it couldn't have been advoided. no matter the security on your system if a hacker wants in they will get in. don't beleive me? Ask the pentagon they have been hacked in the past.

http://news.cnet.com/DOJ-charges-teen-with-Pentagon-hacking/2100-1023_3-230527.html

http://www.switched.com/2009/04/21/300-billion-pentagon-project-hacked-data-compromised-again/

You can have the best security in the world and it will not do you any good.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 4:08AM DiscordSK said

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@starbuck1771
There's a difference between being hacked, because you just happened to be picked at random and what Sony did, which was actively seek out retaliation from the hacker community.

Or do you really think this is just a random occurance that had nothing to do with the events of a few weeks back that lead to subpoenas being through at YouTube, Google, Twitter, etc?

As a customer of theres I have every right to be pissed at them dragging me, and my credit card information, into this fight? Especially, as is coming out more and more as details become known, that all this stuff was sitting on outdated and rather INSECURE servers.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 6:42AM starbuck1771 said

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@DiscordSK Sony didn't hack themselves and didn't ask to be hacked. Sony went after a hacked that violated the TOS which is their right to do so. The hacker they went after got off lightly due to the threats from Anon. Putting the blaim squarely on Sony just shows how stupid most people are. xbox live has basicly the same TOU as the PSN
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However Sony was targeted out of spite. Microsoft has done a hell of a lot more then Sony ever will to hackers. I am sure the FBI is keeping track of the situation and most likely keeping track of geohotz as he is most likely a person of intrest in this because that is what caused all of this bull. However if the person had a grudge against Sony they could have done more to them instead they hit the databases where customer info is stored which most likely means there is more to the situation then a bunch of little kids that still live in their mothers houses.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 8:10AM MrGutts said

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@starbuck1771 You can cut n paste the TOS all you want. For the majority of the users here in the United States minors cannot enter into a Legal Contract. No ifs ans or butts about it.

Any company that is DUMB enough to go after a minor on grounds of a TOS or even a cookie cutter EULA will loose.

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Posted: May 5th 2011 12:38PM Luk said

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@starbuck1771
Sorry the wall of text your provided is not as much fun to read as your own well spaced opinions.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 12:48PM Luk said

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@DiscordSK
Being pissed with a company for taking legal actions in order to protect their property is illogical, despite the consequences of hacking and what's not. Being angry with a company for not communicating about the consequences of those actions that affected you directly makes much more sense.
For example:
If a terrorist blows up a car, he deserves what's coming to him, not the car company that made the car, however, if the car company tries to cover up this act in order to protect its interests that is definitely a foul-play on the company's part.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 2:14PM DiscordSK said

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@Luk
Going to try to get to the center of the problem here.

You and a friend are walking down the street, and your friend being the jackass he is picks a fight with a group of people you've never met or know. They jump you, break your legs and steal your stuff before running off.

You of course make a report, but the police never catch them. Sure, they are "bad" people for what they did but that doesn't change that your friend ,was a jackass, and got you into a situation that you very well might have avoided otherwise.

Look, we all know by now that any action a company is likely to take in regards to piracy is at best temporary and at worse does nothing but hurt the consumer himself. I'll point you to Ubisoft and their online only single player games, EA with their $5 day one DLC (which also goes after pre-owned sales), Activision in avoiding putting out games on the PC entirely (when they can), and so on. These are all extremely heavy handed attempts to curb piracy that don't actually work, they hurt US instead. Sony's attempt to put the genie back into the bottle by going after homebrew is just yet another example of the same old corporate crap that was done with zero regards to what it would do to us, the people yet again most hurt by this.
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Posted: May 4th 2011 11:26PM starbuck1771 said

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Speaking of Firefly and Buffy. The Firefly was cancelled for a buffy mmo but I haven't heard anything new about that either. Joss needs a beat down for doing that.

Posted: May 5th 2011 4:13AM PixelAvenger said

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You guys need to stop spreading misinformation. DCUO servers are NOT being merged. They are creating an equivalent to battlegroups. They call them super servers because they are DISTINCT from regular servers. They are supplemental; everyone from all servers queues into the same super server.

Hopefully you'll read my comment this time and finally post a retraction.

Posted: May 5th 2011 6:54AM ShawnSchuster said

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@PixelAvenger We said they're not server merges :)
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Posted: May 5th 2011 11:52AM PixelAvenger said

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You said that players originally from PVP or PVE servers will be put on the same server, which creates problems, etc. Snickering at them saying "super servers" instead of server merges, etc. It's clear that you seem to believe they are using the "super server" terminology as a cover for merges, when they are really just implementing platform-wide queues as a feature, hence the talk about internal testing.

The original article you discuss opens with the line, "Server merges are an odd thing for any game." It also states that DCUO is "[. . .] dubbing the upcoming merges as creating "super servers." "[. . .] all U.S. PC players will be on the same server." "[. . .] more news regarding the merge in the coming weeks."

So it does seem to me that you are saying they are merges. The link to the original article in this one also jokingly refers to the fact that "super servers" is some kind of doublespeak for server merges, when that is patently untrue.

You guys made an honest mistake. It happens. The ethical thing to do in this situation is to post a correction/retraction, however.
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Posted: May 5th 2011 7:37AM BubleFett said

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DCUO needs to do something about population.
I enjoy the game, other players flew thru the level cap and have
nothing to do until the updates and content additions. There are also
some bug issues that still need fixing with grouping while in instances.

SOE should have closed down the PC online game long ago as soon as they got hit on the PSN side. I was surprised that they didn't.
Only goes to show when a corporation becomes bureaucratic they are slow to act.

Posted: May 5th 2011 12:36PM Luk said

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Regarding security and why people go after Sony instead of hackers.
If the PSN users could go after hackers they would, but unfortunately that is not really possible, so the customers are going after who they can go after, the company they entrusted their information to begin with.

If someone robs a bank and steals your money, are you, as a bank customer will be running around trying to catch the robbers in order to get your money back or simply ask your bank to compensate you for this loss?

Posted: May 5th 2011 2:58PM (Unverified) said

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Rubi, if you're interested in hearing what consumers think about the whole Sony debacle, you should be reading the comments on Joystiq. Pretty much every single popular article from the last week, as of this date, is about this subject and contains tons of comments.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/29/gamasutra-examines-a-playstation-brand-in-crisis/3#comments - I skimmed through and found one example: xHotPotatox's comment, which is a similar analogy to one made in this podcast episode.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/02/sony-hit-with-second-attack-loses-12-700-credit-card-nu/ - A bunch of comments disparaging the people (person?) who hacked Sony.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/04/sony-responds-to-congress-with-open-letter-suggests-anonymous/ - Same with this one.

A lot of the comments are worth reading in my opinion. Yeah you get the usual mix of inane people in there, but it's all interesting nonetheless.

Also, asparagus is indeed awesome. I like it when it's still got some crunch to it, not when it's been cooked to mush. The best I've had was it cooked on the grill with some oil, so tasty. And I imagine anyone who didn't listen to the podcast in its entirety is scratching their heads right now. :P

Posted: May 8th 2011 5:29PM Rubi said

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@(Unverified) These were fascinating, thank you! And yes, asparagus is *perfect* that way. Now I want some, and I'm dying to try cooking it on the grill. /makes a note

It's funny -- my parents aren't gamers by any stretch of the imagination, unless you count my mother playing Wii Tetris, but they've been following the Sony debacle via the Wall Street Journal and a few other news outlets. When we visited for Mother's Day today, they were asking me about it and even in that living room there were varying opinions. Dad pointed out that if he gives a company his credit card number, he trusts them to safeguard it. Mom pointed out that this kind of thing is a constant battle between hackers and companies, each working constantly to stay ahead of the other. Most of the time companies keep 'em out and you hear nothing. This time they didn't, and it exploded in a big, big way.
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Posted: May 6th 2011 10:53PM Wurm said

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I played GW1 from release and I didnt have any lag. There were some bugs, like the henchmen walking high above in the air when ressed at ress shrine. Most bugs were fixed quickly. Then and now I still think it is one of the most solid and bug-free MMO's

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