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Posted: May 2nd 2011 8:15PM Khalus said

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I know SE are working diligently to correct XIV and add all the changes that we voted for earlier this year, but damn ~ 6mo will have passed until the first signs of the combat changes are to just start appearing.

And there is still no mention or preview of the new UI they're working on. He did say the list of changes will be updated in the next letter, so maybe we'll get more info then. Anyway, it doesn't appears as though XIV will become properly updated until the end of this year, if even then ~ I'm banking on mid 2012 at the earliest.

Those of you waiting on the PS3 ver, are ya cool with probably not seeing it for nearly another year!? And for others, will you even care by then...there are several other major MMOs to launch by then!

Posted: May 3rd 2011 8:36AM Unshra said

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@Khalus I'm thinking those waiting for the PlayStation 3 version have other concerns on their mind at the moment. ;)

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Posted: May 3rd 2011 10:44AM Spookimitsu said

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@Unshra
^^^ This, but damn I still really want FFXIV. I'll even take the current build, just let me be a part of the effing community. I've suffered enough; through numerous delays and cancellations.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 8:32PM Graill440 said

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It is so sad to sit back and see the pictures submitted by folks, as some are very nice indeed, and see the absolute mess these pics come from.

The lesson learned for the devs of this title is this, get subject matter experts next time and you wont have disasters like this.

Posted: May 2nd 2011 8:51PM Tizmah said

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I'll be playing Guild Wars 2 by the time FFXIV is even considered satisfactory

Posted: May 2nd 2011 9:18PM kunic said

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I've recently popped back into XIV to give it another go, and surprisingly it's fairly tolerable now. The crafting system is now pretty great (various improvements such as the recipe book has helped it out a ton), combat is more responsive (to tide us over till the new combat gets added), quests have made the game not-so-grindy, exp/sp rate has been increased, etc. The game is definitely in a better state than it was on launch.

It's not perfect yet, obviously, but I got a ton of my friends to jump ship from WoW to XIV recently, so that has to be worth something. Of course, the continual improvements from Yoshi P. has helped bolster the possibility that this game may become fantastic. Tanaka-san had no idea how to make an MMO, Yoshi P. does. If you thought the game was horrible at launch and haven't tried it since, I'd pop on and give it a shot. Check out Fantaji if you want to find an active linkshell to help you get started.

Posted: May 2nd 2011 9:22PM kunic said

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@kunic Also, for those who think the fact that it's taken ~6 months to get here, remember that most MMOs are like this. Both Final Fantasy XI and World of Warcraft took a good solid year to become tolerable as, at launch, they were riddled with so many bugs and glitches that they were hard to play. Heck, at launch you couldn't even play WoW for two weeks due to some of the bugs it had. A ton of MMOs just have rough starts and slowly repair the damages. XIV was in a horrible state, I'm actually astonished Yoshi P.'s team has been able to do so much in this amount of time.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 10:16PM Beltyra said

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@kunic
I like the world you live in. It's different than ours. And different is likable.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 10:26PM Tizmah said

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@kunic What world do you live in? Seriously, WoW was praised by critics on release and won several awards. Where's XIV's rewards? Where is it's praise on release?

I like your world though. I want to live in a world where WoW sucked and FFXIV was the praise worthy. But, that'd be delusional.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 11:40PM kunic said

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@Tizmah Isn't it sad that you made three different accounts just to repeat the exact same thing on all three of them?
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Posted: May 3rd 2011 12:22AM Tizmah said

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@kunic Oh no. You caught on to my evil scheme. Whatever shall I do. Like I have time to make 3 accounts just to troll you? Those are different people.

Or are you trying to troll me?
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 9:31PM (Unverified) said

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I can't see this game ever making it, hell I could see it even being scrubbed and shut down, it's a money pit. When your have to overhaul everything, that crazy costly, the only reason their trying so hard, is for the PS3 release. There stuck on the idea that this type of MMO can be played on a console, it requires a mouse and keyboard in the NA market.

The biggest fundamental problem levelquests; take out all the story elements and make pure grind.

Second XIV is a series of tunnels, not a open world it lacks small realistic factors that are need for a MMO.

Really the only way SE will ever learn from this, is if it hurts their wallets. In the last couple years the quality of their games has gone down hill. They make cheap sequels, and the story (the most important factor) are lacking.

Boycott SoE, Final Fantasy games were our childhood, in some ways the true foundation of the MMO world and evolution of gamiing, their taking advantage of that.

Posted: May 2nd 2011 9:56PM kunic said

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@(Unverified) I don't think you understand anything at all when it comes to the PS3 release.

1) Most PC users are playing with a gamepad already. The interface was designed for gamepads as most Japanese players play with one. The controls will work on a console. The problem right now is that the PC controls don't work for keyboard+mouse, which is what they're working on.

2) The PS3 release isn't about sales. Well, not entirely anyhow. MMOs that release a game for the PC and then later for a console receive a second wave of reviews. Just look at Final Fantasy XI. It released in 2002 and got really horrible reviews (much like XIV). They then fixed it up and released it for the PS2. Review sites like IGN and Gamespot reviewed it a second time and, due to the improvements, gave it really favorable reviews, bolstering its sales. This is the reason they delayed the PS3 release. They want to make the game perfect, then get a second wave of reviews to increase sales.

Unrelated to that, by your logic, WoW should have been a flop entirely. It did horribly for it's first year and had a poor user-base. But die-hard fans (like myself for the Final Fantasy series) waited and waited, then it turned into an awesome game by around the mid-second year mark. Honestly, before you speak, look at the history of MMOs. The two biggest MMOs right now tanked their first year and made up for it in the second and third.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 9:58PM Rengar said

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I don't think their are taking advantage of anything. SquareEnix (The Square side primarily) has always been about trying to be innovative and take huge risks with game design, especially with their flagship Final Fantasy Franchise. The games have pushed the envelope graphically or gameplay wise and sometimes both.

This is hard to maintain for 20+ years that S-E has been making RPGs. As with most company that put out lots of games, some of bound to be duds. They like every big game company struggle with maintain what facets of their series make it great, while continuing to provide a new experience. This make their games, while widely popular, very hit and miss with individual people. (See any discuss about which Final Fantasy is the best. There are about 5.2 billion of them on the Internet.)

They will continue to sometimes have average games, sometimes abysmal games, and sometimes the games that are beyond imagination. As with anything, bu they games that you like, don't buy the ones that you don't. That in the end will tell S-E want kind of games you want to play.
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Posted: May 2nd 2011 10:41PM SnarkRitter said

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@kunic

Oh please, what kind of world are you living in Kunic?

#1 FF XI was released first on the PS2 in Japan 2002 and then ported to PC 6 months later. The NA version was later released in 2003, the PS2 version was released in 2004 .Oh BTW the PS2 version actually got worse review than the PC version. Then later the Xbox 360 version was released and absolutely failed to gain any noticeable sale.

#2 WoW was in no way a flop when it was launched. In fact the game was so good people just couldn't get enough of it. WoW's issues during the first 2 months was mostly server instability and queueu because the game was so popular the servers couldn't handle the number of players. WoW never had any mass exodus after the first month, the subscribers number just keep rising and by the end of the year it hit the one million mark and dethroned Everquest as the most popular MMORPG in the West.

You're the prime example of the typical FF fanboys. Deluded and backward, just like SE.
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Posted: May 3rd 2011 2:21AM (Unverified) said

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I'm not saying a game doesn't have issues on launch, dear god no. However XIV is it's own special can of worms, compared to industry standards and the company experience in gaming (plus a previous MMO) This game is a complete joke, and testers warned them EVERY step of the way, they ignored it completely. I will say the graphics department did a excellent job, but other systems were completely broken. To the point it appeared that they were made by people with no experience in gaming.

The core of this game is rotten.

Posted: May 3rd 2011 7:42AM Nenene said

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FFXI graphical update, Yoshi-P is a good guy, etc

Posted: May 3rd 2011 10:09AM (Unverified) said

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I just started playing, and overall, while I will admit its not for everyone, the game is not as bad as people have made it out to be. I have been having a fun time and found a really nice LS right off the bat. So far, the community on the server Im on seems rather friendly, which is a plus. Im really looking forward to some of the new changes they have planned in 1.18 and beyond.

Posted: May 3rd 2011 12:59PM Ryukan said

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This game was so unfun when it first launched, recently got a chance to try it out briefly again (against my better judgement) and it is still the same wooden, mechanical feeling and unfun game it was when it was released.

Is this game going to still be relevant when it is updated to the point where it could be relevant?

Doubt it...

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