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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 2:16PM Deadalon said

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Games that are built with a "play longer to win" are not healthy for anyone. TBH every account of MMO should have a max of 30 hour playing time per week.

The Asian countries are few years ahead of US and EU in terms realising the long term effects of to much MMO playing on the public and they are taking a stand to try to prevent it even more.

Nothing but good to say about this.

Posted: Apr 25th 2011 2:33PM Lenn said

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@Deadalon Agreed. And while we're at it, let's put some serious restrictions on watching TV (1 hour per day, after that your set will explode), listening to music (1 hour again, after that your cd collection will melt - or your hard drive, for all you illegal downloaders out there), chatting (1 hour a day, or your chat buddies will be killed in a most gruesome fashion) , messing about on Facebook and its ilk (1 hour, that is, if you have any friends left after breaking your chat curfew), and no more than one visit to one relative (of your own choice) each holiday, with the exception of Easter, because nobody celebrates that anyway, so there's no need to go all DRACONIC on that particular day.

Are you for real?
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 2:59PM Tanek said

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@Lenn

While you may have a valid reason for not agreeing with the policy to limit MMO time for children, that reason becomes a bit clouded by exaggeration when you start to compare limiting game time with exploding televisions, melting CDs and gruesome murders.

*gasp* Maybe too much time in MMOs has made you see everything in terms of violence, death , and destruction! :P
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 3:05PM Seldra said

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@Deadalon I don't disagree, it's definitely something that should be aimed at minors than for adults though. And even if it passes or not, it still should and must always be the burden on the parent's shoulders to set limits. Parent's need to realize that kids are not their equals, and that they are the boss so long as they live under their roof.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 3:09PM Lenn said

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@Tanek I guess so. Quick, someone limit my playtime!

I hyperbole when I see crap like this posted. I can't stand nanny states. Leave it to the parents to limit their children's playtime. And if you're an adult who plays too much, you'll find out sooner or later what the consequences may be.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:41PM Lateris said

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@Deadalon Seriously... let's put a restriction on how long you get to surf the web and post on web sites.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:48PM sslmelon said

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@Deadalon "Play longer to win"? Isn't that pretty much every game ever? Aside from single player games, which usually require a certain amount of time to beat, most, if not all multiplayer games require you to play for long amounts of time to increase your skills, or else you fall behind and lose. And no one likes losing. Even if you're of the mindset "I'm learning from it." There's a fine line here that the South Korean (and others, should they decide to adopt this policy) needs to tread in order to get the results they want and not come off as complete idiots.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 8:14PM Deadalon said

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@sslmelon

There are plenty of games that are not "play longer to win" driven. Even some free and creative ones like Minecraft :D
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Posted: Apr 26th 2011 4:33AM (Unverified) said

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@Deadalon

Take your socialistic bullcrap and move to China or Korea if you like it so much. Noone is going to tell me when, where, or how long I play my games.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 2:45PM Grizz said

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I think curfews are a good thing for minors. But throttling sounds awful.

Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:47PM Icemasta said

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@Grizz
It's a solution, but the wrong solution. It's up to the parent to impose the curfew to the youth. It's their duty to take care of their children.

I have 3 kids, the elder one is 14 and really freaking loves video games, and I filter every single thing he wants to play. I am not uber strict, but most of the time I'll change the settings to remove blood/violence (if it's not possible and I deem the game too violent, he can't play). The only play where I am uber serious is online. In TF2 and Monday Night Combat, which I allow him to play (removed gore), voice chat and text chat are disabled. I only allow him to play WoW and it's because of the parental control feature, which brings me to my next point.

Take Battle.net parental control, make it an obligatory safety feature by companies. You know the "DO not turn off your console while saving..." thing? Yeah, you can't legally release a game on any console without having that because it's part of the basic features requested by the companies that own the consoles.

Now, tons of games (consoles and PC included) have forms of parental control that allows parents to control which game and when it can be played. Take Battle.net parental control once again, right now, from monday through friday, he can only log in between 6PM and 9PM with a cap of 2 hours. On weekends, it's open from 9AM to 9PM, with a cap of 4 hours, IMHO it's too much, but he's playing less than that right now. Of course I can unlock it if he asks on holidays for instance.

The problem is that parents don't care, quite simply. At work, I hear this phrase so freaking much "They should make X illegal because my kid could Y.". Hey, how about you take care of your freaking kids? It seriously infuriates me how people wants rights removed, even if it's from kids, because they can't grow a pair and take care of their own child.

Where I live, it's illegal for a kid not to go to school until he's 16. If the kid doesn't go to school, whose fault is it? It's the parent's fault, especially in cases where you have a troubled kid and the parents aren't doing shit. Of course it's never instantly, but if your kid skips cool and you don't do shit about it, cops can arrest you(the parent), and it's a night in jail + a pretty fine. It's the parent's responsibility to take care of their kid, if they can't, they should be punished unless attenuating circumstances.

/rant
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:49PM Icemasta said

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@Grizz
Forgot a couple of things, while it can be annoying for my kids, all consoles and PCs are locked with a password. The little rascals can't get up at 5 AM and try to score a couple of hours on the PS3 even if they wanted to, because it's password locked.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 2:46PM Enikuo said

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As far as enforcement of the law goes, the Time article about this refers to their National ID card, which I suppose would be one avenue for enforcement. They could also put the onus on the internet cafes to make underage kids leave after hours or to simply shutdown during nighttime hours. And, according a Joystick article a few months back, South Korea actually polices some popular games, like Maplestory. So, I don't think it's beyond their capability to enforce it to some degree.

Posted: Apr 25th 2011 3:02PM Space Cobra said

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I am surprised this wasn't past 2-4 years ago. Asian parents tend to drive their kids to succeed (ie: "Tiger Mom").

This shouldn't be a problem for such parents to discipline themselves at home, but most go to internet cafes and that can be harder to enforce. "Between the hours of midnight and 6am" is not too unreasonable to ask of school-aged kids, except if you are talking weekends and vacations.

I guess they will control the bandwidth for certain games, but how will they know if an account is a child or an adult?

I am not fully behind such laws and I think some of the news stories are magnified (as they are here), so this law is a bit of an "appeal the voting masses" type of thing, with "elder folks shocked knee-jerk reactions". Parental control comes from the home, even in Asia. I can only guess Kids are out at night and at cafes (or possibly sneaking play at night at home). I know Asian parents work long and hard, so they may not deal with it effectively. :/

Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:43PM sslmelon said

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@Space Cobra I'm not sure how many games it applies for, but I know some free Asian MMOs require a National ID when making your account (assuming you're from a country where it's required). If I remember right, there was a spot for a Malaysian ID in Maplestory SEA.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 3:16PM Daemodand said

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God bless America, land of the free!

Posted: Apr 25th 2011 3:28PM Ryn said

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@Daemodand

"God bless America, land of the free!" Exactly!!

Why can't the parents be parents? It's just that simple really. Government intervention like this prohibits parents from doing their job, further confusing their role in the kids eyes. No wonder they are screwed up. What people fail to understand is this opens the door for more intervention down the road. I would not be surprised to see something like this put forward by our current administration. Who am I to think I know whats right for my child? How dare I.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 4:27PM Zantom said

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@Ryn

I'm with Ryn. Freedom FTW!

The more Government takes the role of parent the less people will parent themselves. It is disturbing how many "sheeple" in America love the idea of Government regulations (as long as it is for someone other than themselves). I guess it is to be expected with decades of indoctrination camps... err I mean public schools.
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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:17PM Deadalon said

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Intresting - last time I looked we would need 5 Earths to maintain the consumer level that is in US and EU

Intresting that ppl from these countries (including me) are critising how others are doing things.

OH well... just keep eating hamburgers and playing computer games 24/7 - Let other countries work for it.

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Posted: Apr 25th 2011 6:39PM Ryn said

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@Deadalon This is about freedom. Freedom of choice, freedom to raise your children how you see fit. I don't need the Gov. to tell me how to do this. Whether I live in this country or elsewhere. You can't legislate good parenting. This has nothing to do with maintaining a consumer level. Government usually destroys anything it touches. If you just follow simple history, this has played out for centuries. Governments around the world think they can control their people, much like the Kings of old. They are wrong. This is but a simple example of that.
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