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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 2:54PM epilepticemu said

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You, sir, are totally unverified.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 2:54PM Dril said

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@Saker

I'm sick to death of hearing about RIFT.

How about we agree we won't mention any MMOs on an MMO blog? Would that suit you?

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:02PM nilsmmoblog said

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I liked everthing about Trions reaction. Except for that bribe. Items ..*yawn*

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:17PM Germaximus said

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Trion is just constantly blowing my mind how awesome they are.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:18PM Thac0 said

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@(Unverified) You mean the people phasing in and out? How do you know that was a "bug" and not a "feature". I assumed that because there had to be hundreds or thousands of people in one tine spot as verified by your video that this was doen to increase performance for everyone. I don't think people with even the best comps. would be able to run with that.

So bugs? No I dont think they saw bugs either you are assuming its a bug.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:21PM Dril said

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@Puremallace

Actually, I think lagging to the point of unplayability, server crashes and server queues meaning you miss the whole thing constitute "actually not working."

Oh, and, yes, I'm a massive hater, I should go back to carebear WoW since RIFT is obviously so much more hardcore, I'm 12-years-old etc etc.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:38PM Thac0 said

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@(Unverified) I just did and I don't see anything that would change my opinion or what I said. I did see that he said they were at 25% of what they wanted to do and the original intent was a "what if" about having lots of people etc. sooo what did I miss?

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:42PM Triskelion said

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YOU"RE NOT IN AZEROTH ANYMORE! Yeah, you're in some lame-ass rip-off of an MMO that spends more time and energy on marketing then putting out a stable, secure, bug-free experience.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:48PM Oskari said

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@Triskelion

We get the fact you don't like Rift. No one here is forcing you to play. How about you grow up, act with some civility towards others, and realize that trolling an MMO article does not make you cool or whatever else you kids call it these days.

It is stunning the amount of time that is being spent by some people to consistently heckle articles on games they have no interest in playing.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 3:47PM wardenwells said

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You know, all I can say is how unfair I think the comparison to Square Enix was. Trion made a mistake, and the WoW-xerox'd laziness of Rift is disappointing (but well hyped), but come on... watch the low blows. These people have feelings. :(

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 4:45PM Deadalon said

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@Puremallace

Some servers are full - Others are TOTALLY ghosttowns atm. Last 4 days we had less than 70!!! level 50s online. ON the WHOLE server. And yes... YOu can check it with /who - up to 28 ppl. But there were not even 28 of each class.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:16PM (Unverified) said

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Did I read here that some are tired of Rift players that spew hate on WoW?!

That's like the Romans complaining about the Christians feeding them to the lions... I read SO many attacks here on Rift from WoW players that it got to the point I was hesitant to even read here anymore.

The events troubles were only more fuel for those same players to heap more attacks on Rift, they rejoiced in the glow of failure, all hoping for a mass exodus from the game, limping back to WoW begging for forgiveness, met with smug glances from those who "told you so"... or so was the hope.

As the OP said... the emotions invoked by the event from those who were not able to join in were based on their love of the game... if the game sucked they would not have gotten upset, cause they wouldn't even have tried to be part of the event.

The strong opinions were caused by players who Cared, who Really like the game enough to take a day off, set other stuff aside to make time for the game... and those same players won't be running for the doors because of one event with troubles.

I look forward to more special events in Rift... I'm not deterred by a new MMO's attempts at giving us cool stuff to play and having some wrinkles to fix, cause once they get it right it's US who win, it's US who get to look wide-eyed at the screen with... OMG, that's friggin' Cool! written all over our face.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:30PM Rialle said

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RIFT will not truly hurt WoW, but I think the fact that people are still playing it after a month (because there is actually an end game and not brown, unfinished zones) makes Blizzard fanboys who are unreasonably devoted to their One True Game nervous. The reason is not that they think RIFT will kill WoW, but that RIFT still seems to be faring better than WAR/AOC. This basically means that it is possible to provide a viable alternative in the market that WoW dominates.

Why does that make them nervous? Easy. If a game that came out of nowhere from a relatively unknown developer can be proven to do this well, imagine what TOR will do if Bioware doesn't completely screw it up.

If you think the current situation with some WoW players going to great lengths to bash RIFT is bad, wait until TOR comes out. As long as TOR isn't a complete screw-up, there is a good chance that it will put a dent in Blizzard's subscriber numbers. This will completely shatter the world view of the people who think WoW is the end-all be-all of gaming.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:20PM BGExorcist said

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I forgot the event, heard it ended quite fast. They gave away all the stuff for free today, achievements and tokens. People already started farming the second raid. So thats about it, all is old news already. They are buffing the rogue soul for some unknown to me reason, that will totaly kill whats left of the pyrofronts. At least they are making good upgrade to the PvP items.
Account for sale here btw :D

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:32PM Rialle said

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@BGExorcist

Not surprising. I think Trion's biggest misstep, which is a far smaller misstep than the screw ups made by most other developers - but still a misstep, is that they underestimated the skill and organization that players would have this soon into the game.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:23PM Aenedor said

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I missed the event but we picked up a new guildy via the free trial weekend.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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Here's something i'd like to know.

When is the Author(s) of this article going to start using factual information rather than writing a completely nonsense column about an event that they didn't even attend?

In the article, Karen states she has spoken to players, well, where are their reactions? Yes, I understand this is an opinion-based article. But if you the author can't even be tasked to attend an in game event, they shouldn't be commenting on how bad/good it was just simply by talking to 1 or 2 guildmates and reading forum posts.

Seriously, I know that WoW is JoyStiq's money maker, but theres no need to go out of the way to really portray the first live "event" in this kind of light. It was a first event. Problems were bound to come up. Hopefully Trion can address these moving forward. I did attend the event on my home server, and while it was a bit buggy, you have to also understand that EVERYONE that was on was in the same place at the same time. Thats going to create lag and stress the live servers and the event itself into areas that normal testing cannot predict ala Large fleet fights in EVE Online.

Seriously, every other columnist that writes an opinion article at least has the where-with-all to actually ATTEND the event before lambasting it in a public media forum.

Karen, either do you job, attend the events and then tell us what happened, or pick some random BS from the 2 hours or so you actually played in the past week to tell us about. If your going to write an personal opinion about an event and tell us how "bad" it was, at least BE THERE TO EXPERIENCE IT SO YOUR NOT WRITING VICARIOUSLY THROUGH OTHER PEOPLES EXPERIENCES.

I;d much rather read an opinionated column from someone who'd actually attended the event, than someone who didn't have time(or didn't care) to go in the first place.

And furthermore, when this event started you wrote a highly negative article reflecting its launch, but completely OMITTED(or deliberately forgot) to mention how fast Trion hotfixed/patched the event to prevent the higher levels from mass camping low level Rifts by changing the dynamic of how the rift look was handed out.

This colum already has two strikes. I eagerly await the third, because its gonna happen.

God forbid we as readers actually want to hear a first hand account of how the event went rather than seeing a screenshot of your log in que that was taken hours after the event ended.

/rant off

And yes, Rift has it growing pains, just like every other MMO does, its trial and error, just like Blizzard and every other company that does MMO management.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 8:16PM MrBNuts said

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What the hell are you on about? That was her factual account of the event, as she experienced it, and the conclusions she drew from it. The only "negative" thing I took from that post was her saying the "one-and-done" nature of the event. Which, in retrospect was a bad decision.

Everything else was the conclusions Karen drew from the event, most notably, players are still interested and playing the game, the developers are still fostering goodwill with the player base, and these are all good things for the game, the community, and any future events.

Read a little bit slower and actually *think* about what was written before getting your panties in a twist over it.
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Posted: Apr 20th 2011 6:16PM Evi said

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I manged to catch phase 2 and 3 purely by chance. I waited in queue, but it wasn't long enough to cause me to miss the event. I was disappointed at how fast it was over. I was not able to see phase 3 because my level wasn't high enough to get there. The whole thing lasted less than half an hour on my server.

I was one of the people who lagged out and almost completely missed the AQ40 event in WoW. I was kicked from the server over and over until I gave up in frustration. Although my experience with RIFT's world event was much better, the quick ending was a disappointment. I'm not going to quit, I'm not going to cry about it, but I sure hope Trion has learned a lesson from this.

Posted: Apr 20th 2011 9:21PM (Unverified) said

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@MrBNuts

You've made my point. What event did she experience? A log in que two hours after the event had concluded? Thats one heckuva stretch to equate a log in que with an event she didnt attend that concluded 2 hours previous to her "experience." Sure, the one and done aspect of it was disappointing to be sure. But she didn't experience ANY part of the event(unless I missed something and a log in que 2+ hours later was part of the event as well).

To make what I was trying to explain before more clear (because obviously you don't get it). You cannot credibly experience an event in such a manner as to say it was good or bad if you never took part in the event to begin with. If Karen had talked to guild mates or people, show us an interview-style transcript of what they liked/disliked because, Oh I don't know, they actually EXPERIENCED the event to begin with. Thats my point.

This is akin to a desk-jockey writing a first person account of the storming of the Omaha & Utah beach at Normandy. You can't accurately portray ANY event in this fashion. Especially when you lambasting an event you personally didn't attend. It would be akin to me saying that is a terrible person, because 2 guild members and a few forum posts back that up. Yet i've never met the person nor had any form of communication with them. It's unfounded and its bad reporting/blogging/whateveryouwanttocallit.

My whole point was Karen wrote like she experienced the whole event first hand, when she did not. Yes, I understand she logged in 2+ hours later and spoke to guild mates and read forum posts that may/may not have backed up what she heard. That still doesnt give her any right to paint the event negatively if she didnt have the time to devote to the event in the first place.

If your going to say something is bad or good in aspects to a game, experience it first hand. Forum posts are irrelevent in gaining useful knowledge because as with most MMO games, a bulk of the playerbase never utilizes the forums, and those that do, usually tend to be overwhelmingly negative, and that can paint even a mediocre event in a severely negative light.

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