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Posted: Apr 17th 2011 4:43PM Utnac said

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Do these articles not get moderated in any way before they get put on the website, I do think that some of the writers get some undeserved stick but this article is a complete joke.

Your sweeping, ignorant generalizations of FPS games reads like something straight off of a fanboi fueled forum debate, and your explanation why they are popular just makes you look like a twat. If you don not like FPS games why are you writing articles about FPS games?

You havn't even left the tutorial...

Posted: Apr 17th 2011 4:47PM Fakeassname said

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@Utnac

I can't tell if your making a joke about how Beau commented on hyper aggressive haters declaring that they know whats best for everyone, but playing it so far to the hilt that I can't tell it's a joke ... or not joking at all.
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Posted: Apr 17th 2011 4:44PM Fakeassname said

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do you always rock the "hot tea" or is that just for this game?

Posted: Apr 17th 2011 6:10PM (Unverified) said

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"It's more likely that playing FPS games results in marathon sessions of playing them, spurring on various related health issues for marathon gamers."

How is this true at all. Do you have any statistical data to back this up or is it just a poorly formed opinion that you apply to the most popular genre of video game? And people don't play fps games because of the degree of skill required or the competition, they only play because it has explosions and blood splatter? Give me a break.

Posted: Apr 17th 2011 6:24PM Beau Hindman said

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@(Unverified) I was simply poking fun at people who presume that FPS games result in a more violent individual. It seems to be lost on some people, but I am actually a fan of FPSs, but was jokingly saying "Violent individuals really aren't the problem, Cheetos are."

Beau
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Posted: Apr 17th 2011 11:25PM Resurge said

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jesus christ, Beau ...hit a nerve I guess. Some people are out of thier minds, and apparently most of them play FPS games. I like the guy who was all " i dont know who this writer is blah blah blah" ....he's only a contributing editor, and one of the MAIN writers who post on this site ALL THE TIME. Also, the guy who completely missed the joke was fun too.

I mean, good lord people, it's just a light review of his experiences in this game, and his recommendations for people considering it. If you don't agree, fine, but DAMN did Beau generate some interweb hate with this one, lol.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 12:10PM Space Cobra said

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@Resurge

Yeah, he seems to hit several nerves.

From reading the article, it is clear to me that he doesn't hate FPS, but his sentences of comparing shooting and raiding (mostly the lines between "First of all", under the picture where his avatar is sunning itself on concrete pavement and the next paragraph ending with "kills outweigh their death." which is over the video link) seem to be the cause of concern. I know I'd probably be at danger writing an off-the-cuff comment of a different nature in such a blog; all articles can't be winners.

And while I "got" Beau's meaning that he couldn't get out of the tutorial (because it was hard), others didn't. Some even posted the usual "it was easy-peasy for me." I am pretty sure Beau meant that this would be just as annoying for any new/casual player to the game.

But, I learned in college writing up one review (and it's been enforced reading on the Net), that if you can't get past the tutorial (or fully review something), just drop the article (or "disclaimer it like crazy", although I know folks will still be "knocking at your door" even with such signs posted).

Many critics just tend to fall into that category, it seems. Better to have some completeness than admit to not leaving the tutorial. :/ just some advice.
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 12:23PM Beau Hindman said

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@Space Cobra First of all, it is not a review. I do not pretend to ever spend enough time in one of these games (a week, or about 10 hours) to call it a complete review. If anything, it is a first impressions or a preview. We've covered this before here on Massively, quite a lot.

Second, the premise of this column has always been the same, and it prevents me from "dropping" a game just because it didn't work. I didn't get out of the tutorial because it was hard, but because it was impossible. There were not enough people on to form a group, and when the groups came into the instance they simply jumped out or stood, often AFK (I have no idea why that happened a lot.)

So, while it would be nice if I could just play the games for a week before playing the games for a week, and while I often have to check them to make sure they literally run on my machine (without errors) the purpose of this column has always been to be the eternal newbie.

If the newbie experience does not work, that's not my fault.

Beau
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 1:05PM Space Cobra said

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@Beau Hindman

Ah, even I got the intent of "Rise and Shiny" a bit wrong. Apologizes on that.

Just trying to get you back, man. :)
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Posted: Apr 18th 2011 4:24PM Beau Hindman said

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@Space Cobra Dude, you always got mah back. Thanks! :) I was also replying to anyone who might have misunderstood. You just took the brunt of it! lol

Beau
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Posted: Apr 17th 2011 11:56PM Darkmoone said

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Big deal he's the contributing editor, so he's above critique?. Listen i hit max level in CrimeCraft and almost maxed crafting when it was in beta a year ago, it wasn't impressive then it isn't now. Me and my friends were setting up competitive games with other clans.

You would only be wasting people's time if you never made it to end game let alone the tutorial to try to tell other people to give it a shot, don't you think?.

How would you feel if you were buying a new car and the reviewer in some magazine only got it up to 10 mph, would you take his advice?.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 9:35AM Chriskovo said

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I’m sorry this article is ridiculous. Can’t get past the tutorial and you think you can write a review on it? You should be ashamed of yourself and take down this article. This game isn’t much to talk about but if you decide to do an article then do it right instead of half assed.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 12:18PM Space Cobra said

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One other related comment, at least from my perspective.

APB was the "hot game", but had not come out yet. People were expecting it. Devs were designing the faces of other devs in it (A Nintendo dev comes to mind in one video). CrimeCraft, from my limited knowledge, seems to have been made on the coattails after APB's announcement and impending hype. That isn't to say that it could be a mere coincidence that CrimeCraft could have been made without APB, but as far as I know, this doesn't seem to be the case (and anyone is welcome to correct me if I am wrong).

Never having touched CrimeCraft, many of the comments seem to focus on this after launch, or at least, mixed in with other concerns. People were anticipating what APB did (even though they only knew a little of what APB did then, since all we had were videos and bits of Game PR) with CrimeCraft and it didn't match up to these "heightened expectations".

And really, I have no basis to compare the two (since I have yet to play CrimeCraft) but it seems APB did what it did better and with more flourish (self-designed clothes, gamer logos, music on in-game cell phones being big points, at least for me).

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 2:45PM Shirogetsune said

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These people over-reacting to Beau's "a shooter is a shooter is a shooter" like statements are probably the same people that dismiss many new F2P projects as "Korean Grinders." That they think it's ok to use such an attitude with other games, but then get offended when it's applied to their genre, is insane.

Regardless, Beau did a good job as usual with this article. He compared it to it's closest competition such as Global Agenda and APB. While there are other F2P shooters out there, APB shares the same vibe and theme, so comparisons are natural... and Global Agenda is one of the more successful F2P lobby shooters.

It's not Beau's fault the game's design is lackluster, resulting in a difficult time passing the mandatory part of the game and getting to the meat. It's the same as it wouldn't be his fault if the game didn't run well due to many technical problems, poor English translations, or *gasp* a low player/new player population such as this game. Telling Beau to wait to finish a tutorial that clearly isn't running well is the same as telling him purchase a Korean/Chinese to English dictionary and translate his own damn quest text.

Anyways, glad to see you gave this a visit. It's always been on my "Hmm..." list, but like you, I've heard little good of it. Now seeing there is essentially forced grouping with a half-functioning match maker in the tutorial, I won't have to waste my download speed or hard disk space.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 5:07PM (Unverified) said

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That isn't in first person, and therefore isn't an FPS Just sayin'.

Posted: Apr 18th 2011 5:15PM Beau Hindman said

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@(Unverified) True dat.

Beau
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