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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 8:16AM Thorqemada said

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Well, at some point they should make a good bye event and go with style.
Question is when this should happen and in what way.
SOE should bury SWG and Vanguard at least officially and allow private servers for the die hards.

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 9:15AM The Ogre said

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@Thorqemada

Why SWG? Tons of people are playing and development is ongoing at a fairly steady (if slow) pace, even if there'll never be a full expansion ever again.

Ah, yes, of course. Must be an NGE Troll. That'd explain it.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 9:23AM paterah said

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@Thorqemada If SOE is making money and if people are enjoying those games then why would they do that? Makes no sense :/ You have no idea what you are talking about.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 11:58PM SirUrza said

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@Thorqemada

They can't shutdown Vanguard! I still have an unopened collector's edition here! I've been waiting for the perfect storm to install it.

As for SWG, SOE's going to wait until after SWTOR comes out to make any serious decisions about it.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 8:17AM pcgneurotic said

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Bloody hell, this is some grievous news. I had no idea they'd officially stopped work on it. Guess our F2P-with-continued-development dreams are blown then. :(

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 8:45AM Ken from Chicago said

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Give it a year in F2P to revive and if still can't be profitable on even one server then shut it down.

I, and I'm pretty sure Shawn still, wish that option was given TABULA RASA.

Posted: Apr 11th 2011 3:03AM Transientmind said

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@Ken from Chicago

God. I would give my eye teeth to play Tabula Rasa as a 4-player LAN game with my friends, with single-player option like Diablo.

Hell, I know folks who are still playing Diablo 2 and how many updates have been released for that in the last... oh, let's say, five years?
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 8:48AM InventionExchange said

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I'd sorta like to see games like this get auctioned off.. let another company buy the source and see what they can do with it instead of just flat out shutting it down or not updating it.

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 2:42PM MMOaddict said

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@InventionExchange

I agree with this. Would rather see Vanguard or Tabula Rasa, or MxO get auctioned off to some indy developers to cut their teeth on or for a bigger company to grab it and throw some cash at it. Maybe take risks with it since it wouldn't be such a massive investment compared to buying a hot game from someone else.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 4:59PM Interitus said

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@InventionExchange

I agree. I'm happy APB is coming back. For it's faults I can't deny I had a great time with my friends.

I with The Agency had another chance, it was to be released this year, something that close to being finished should have seen the light of day.

And I'd love to play MxO again. You don't realize how much you took something for granted until it's gone.
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Posted: Apr 10th 2011 6:53PM cray said

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@InventionExchange Totally agree your idea. Auction it off would help the original publisher recoup some of the financial loss from the game development and give another publisher a chance to service existing customers.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 8:52AM ReliQ05 said

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"It's better to burn out, than it is to rust." - Neil Young

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 9:04AM Beau Hindman said

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Eh, the community has known this for a long time, much longer than a year. Development was rare even years ago. Still, SOE is doing more than most would by just keeping it open.

After all, it wasn't doing very well almost as soon as it launched. It's not as though they cut off a thriving, growing community. They are essentially leaving the lights on for anyone who wants to keep dancing. Not a bad thing to do.

It's still a great game, anyway. It's beautiful and robust. There is a ton to do, so don't let these type of announcements sway you from the game. Even if there was some kind of wall of end-content to hit, (as if roleplay and exploration are no longer options) even then you would have plenty to do for the better part of a year. I love this game, always have...and I have never waited on a developer to tell me something to validate my fun. :)


Beau

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 9:05AM Taawa said

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It depends on how broken the game is. Vanguard may very well be playable to those who enjoy it. But if a game is riddled with balance and performance problems, like WAR, it'd be better to close the doors.

Posted: Apr 9th 2011 9:18AM Beau Hindman said

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@Taawa Strange...Vanguard or WAR don't seem to have these issues you are mentioning. I have rarely had any issues above some minor ones. The last time I had a game-breaking issue in VG was when I first started playing, years ago.

Of course, there could be some issues within very specific events or dungeons, but even then they would hardly represent the great bulk of either game.

Beau
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 10:27AM Dril said

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@Beau Hindman

WAR has horrendous issues. Balance is still iffy at best, and the combat and general responsiveness, both from the actual client itself and the servers, are still poor. So, yes, WAR has issues. They are, in fact, the same issues it had at launch.

Some devs never learn though.

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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 11:41AM Beau Hindman said

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@Dril Hmm, balance problems possibly. Performance, though? I saw none of that. In fact, it runs and acts beautifully. Like i said, though, it might not in all areas -- but is it in the majority of the game? Not that I have heard or experienced. I doubt it's performance problems are up there with the worst of them. Heck, Vanguard hasn't even been up there with the worst of the them for years, but people still bring it up as though the game is unplayable. lol

Beau
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 11:42AM Integral said

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@Beau Hindman

No idea about Vanguard. But WAR does indeed have many issues. On 3 separate computers I've never been able to get the game to run without crippling performance. I never noticed any balance issues because I couldn't enjoy the game long enough to encounter any. I don't play MMO's for the graphics, but this game I need them to at least run well. There are probably a lot of people that can get WAR to run smoothly but from forum postings I wasn't the only one who had a lot of trouble with it. My computer (and the other 2 I tried it on) aren't weak either. All 3 were robust gaming computers that could cut through much better looking games with ease. It sucks because I really wanted to like WAR.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 11:56AM Ratham said

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@Taawa I've been playing WAR since launch and i havent had any issues with it at all. Balance is WAY better than WoW (if you disagree you are a fanboy that keeps re-rolling every patch) and the performance has been improved greatly over the months and it runs fine.

To me it sounds like you are bitter because you aren't good at pvp.
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Posted: Apr 9th 2011 6:52PM Taawa said

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@Ratham

I'm an 85 zealot. I'm a good kiter with above average spatial awareness. Balance has improved greatly over the last year. But recent patches nearly killed the game with new balance issues between levels instead of classes. I hope the next planned patch addresses those issues. But DPS Archmages will always be crazily OP. The same goes for DoKs and WPs, cave-win IBs, and nearly impossible to kill defensive BGs.

My computer is no slouch. It plays STO, Champions, WoW, Eve, Aion, Rift, and Guild Wars very, very well. WAR's performance has improved, noticeably lately in the last patch. But it still hitches in IC and when certain zealot and bright wizard spell effects happen. My computer stops when more than one slayer spams their AoE. Textures load slowly. The patcher stops now, for quite a long time, before anything happens. The game is just high-maintenance. Were it to be left on its own the servers would break down within days. It needs lots of maintenance.
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